really wrote:
Yeah, running 100 mpw is definitely NOT going to help you in a 100 meter sprint.
I'll take someone who jogs 100mpw over a lardass off the couch 9 times out of 10.
You're right that your aerobic fitness is meaningless in a 100m. But the fact remains, 100mpw trains your aerobic system, and I don't have the figures in front of me, but all middle distance and long distance events depend on your aerobic system to some extent.
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UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:
really wrote:Yeah, running 100 mpw is definitely NOT going to help you in a 100 meter sprint.
I'll take someone who jogs 100mpw over a lardass off the couch 9 times out of 10.
You're right that your aerobic fitness is meaningless in a 100m. But the fact remains, 100mpw trains your aerobic system, and I don't have the figures in front of me, but all middle distance and long distance events depend on your aerobic system to some extent.
No, it only trains your aerobic system if the pace is causes your heart to work at a sufficient level. If you go out and jog 100mpw, you're running what are called "recovery jogs" but the majority of distance runs adding up to weekly mileage have to be at an honest pace, a qualifier that is tragically left out of the equation at times.
wiggly wrote:
UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:I'll take someone who jogs 100mpw over a lardass off the couch 9 times out of 10.
You're right that your aerobic fitness is meaningless in a 100m. But the fact remains, 100mpw trains your aerobic system, and I don't have the figures in front of me, but all middle distance and long distance events depend on your aerobic system to some extent.
No, it only trains your aerobic system if the pace is causes your heart to work at a sufficient level. If you go out and jog 100mpw, you're running what are called "recovery jogs" but the majority of distance runs adding up to weekly mileage have to be at an honest pace, a qualifier that is tragically left out of the equation at times.
The original guy probably meant 800m to marathon.
And to the guy that said "only if you're running fast enough", practically everyone that does high mileage is running fast enough. I've never met someone that did 120 mpw at 12:00 mile pace. Most run fast enough. You have to go almost double of your mile pace in order for it to be meaningless.
long dong silver wrote:
wiggly wrote:No, it only trains your aerobic system if the pace is causes your heart to work at a sufficient level. If you go out and jog 100mpw, you're running what are called "recovery jogs" but the majority of distance runs adding up to weekly mileage have to be at an honest pace, a qualifier that is tragically left out of the equation at times.
The original guy probably meant 800m to marathon.
And to the guy that said "only if you're running fast enough", practically everyone that does high mileage is running fast enough. I've never met someone that did 120 mpw at 12:00 mile pace. Most run fast enough. You have to go almost double of your mile pace in order for it to be meaningless.
As long as you are breathing harder than when you are walking or sitting on the couch, any type of aerobic activity is beneficial. No one runs 100 mile weeks slow for long, sooner or later your body adapts and you are able to run pretty respectable long runs, which translate to success in races.
I'd go a step further and say that as long as you're using your leg muscles and elevating your heart you're getting some training effect that will translate to faster racing. If you go far enough back into the history of marathon training you see that guys did as much or even more walking than running. I'd really have to dig around to find the specifics, but there was a guy who ran the Boston Marathon early in the 20th century who lived in New York City and trained for the race by walking from New York to Boston. It's certainly not optimal and he never won the race but he placed well for a number of years.
HRE wrote:
I'd go a step further and say that as long as you're using your leg muscles and elevating your heart you're getting some training effect that will translate to faster racing. If you go far enough back into the history of marathon training you see that guys did as much or even more walking than running. I'd really have to dig around to find the specifics, but there was a guy who ran the Boston Marathon early in the 20th century who lived in New York City and trained for the race by walking from New York to Boston. It's certainly not optimal and he never won the race but he placed well for a number of years.
Noakes "Lore of Running" has a number of profiles of these "pedestrians" from the 1800's and early 1900's.
That may be where I read it. Or it might have been in Tom Derderian's book.
That is a good training method, Train and develope speed first and then go into a period of high mileage.
There is no magic in a number... You just need to do the right blend of work to run fast....
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Even identical twins cannot train identically. Don't fall into the trap of trying to copy another's training. Learn what you can from others but in the end, its all on you.