Come to think of it, Lagat ran singles for much of his career. He only switched to doubles once he started training for the 5000.
Come to think of it, Lagat ran singles for much of his career. He only switched to doubles once he started training for the 5000.
Not sure if you count him as a pro... but Ed Whitlock has fantastic age graded marathon times and trains by doing 3 hours easy running a day (in one run).
Flashback to the 70s and 80s.
Gerry Helme (St Helens) ran 2.10 marathon on singles in early 80s
Marc Smet (Belgium) also ran 2.10 in marathon on exactly one hour a day of training, once a day.
Graham Dugdale (Thames Valley, London) 2.17 marathon man - 15 miles every evening. No doubles.
Bob Holt (Hercules Wimbledon) 7.59/13.48/28.39/2.16 all of those times on once a day, except for the marathon when he did a 10 week buildup which included doubles, for 3 days a week. Average mileage 60 miles per week.
William Struyven (Cagnes sur Mer, France) 29.00/63 minutes (10,000/half marathon) all on singles....progressive runs, and never more than 60 miles per week, and a few bike rides.
Ghost in Saudi,
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This has Kip's training and is usually reliable. Doubles 6 x wk which fits in with most EA training, although now some do even more
http://members.iinet.net.au/~peterg1/run/aths.html
Jim Peters (info from his great Autobiography who set the WR a very long time ago was a 10,000m runner training on singles who stepped up to the marathon late in his career. As he had a family and was short of time in the evening he stepped upto doubles (think did lunchtime run) and remarked that even his 10,000m time dramatically improved even though he was well into his 30's and not concentrating on the event
perhaps these runners would have been even better with doubles? Hard to say, but a guy like Smet probably had some
room for improvement (impressive 2:10 though!!)
I don't know of any elites who don't run doubles. Heck, the Africans run triples.
fff wrote:
perhaps these runners would have been even better with doubles? Hard to say, but a guy like Smet probably had some
room for improvement (impressive 2:10 though!!)
That's always fodder for a good debate. I think doubles are the thing to do if you want to get the best out of yourself but there are exceptions to everything. I have a couple friends who were never close to being "pros" but were good local runners who just fell apart when they ran more than once a day. In my case, I've had periods of time where I've tried to reverse some of the deterioration that comes with age by doing doubles regularly. It worked once but not as well as alternating daily runs of about two hours with those of about an hour did.
clearing the bs up wrote:
Sam Chelanga runs 100-110 miles per week in singles in his heaviest training periods and he is faster than any american ever at 10,000 save for one.
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You are comparing a one-in-a million guy to the whole lot of runners
"Who" not "that"
The 5 greatest runners is the modern history of distance running had the following in common:
1) They ran 13 times per week (twice a day except for long run day)
2) They ran 200-220k per week (training week)
3) They races a variety of distances
1) Who are the 5 greatest runners?
2) Where did you get the information?
3) This is the exact opposite of what the thread was supposed to be about.
Tike wrote:
Are there many pro's out there that don't run doubles or didn't ran doubles?
Yes, but not very many. They are in the very small minority.
I doubt UB runs 220km/week. List the five you are thinking of.
I bet they are all distance runners. ElG never ran 220km/week.
Homework Doer wrote:
The 5 greatest runners is the modern history of distance running...
The 5 greatest, in your opinion.
That is a myth. Most Kenyans do not run triples. Some Kenyans run triples during training camps for a few weeks a year but that is unusual.
Ethiopians never run triples. And some only double on 2-3 days a week.
Flashback to the early 70s to the early 80s. Karel Lismont, the double Olympic marathon medallist (27.56 10,000 as well, and third in the World cross) ran triples and was one of the few to do so. The cafe owner from Borgloon, Belgium would run three 10km runs a day.....in around 33" - 36" minutes.....or slower on some occasions. It worked for him and he had a long and illustrious career over a 10 year period.
Ghost in Saudi,
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I'm curious about what Malmo thinks of this...
47 wrote:
I'm curious about what Malmo thinks of this...
Why? Malmo has stated many times to not model your training after the anomalies. Is there anything about it that's confusing.
Oh, are they anomalies? I didn't realize that.
It should be obvious. Elites who train in singles are very rare.
Bekele
Ngugi
Tergat
Geb
Radcliffe
is that your five?