highest mileage d1 teams

this is a joke right, train with your "brain". I guess it rhymes so that's not, but that is about it. The more you think in running the WORSE you get, bottom line. It is a SIMPLE SPORT. you start THINKING and training with your "brain" you get slow. You start thinking, oh hey are these 100mpw paying off, because when I was runnin them 70 mpws I felt fresh all the time. THEY ARE PAYING OFF!!! I feel like an old man saying this because I am not, BUT, you gotta work for great things in life. You can sit back hit those 70 mpws and yeah, you'll runner "better" each year. But the big pay WILL NOT EVER HAPPEN I can promise that. you talk all this gibberish about getting better, well if you are runnin 3K's and having that type of improvement I'd bet your a young fellow, SO if you use your "brain" instead of the liberalized BS you here on this site, you'd know that the reason your having such improvements is your growth. NOT cause you did the same darn thing you did last year, except "a little faster". it horse caca.

To Sorry to rain on your parade, give it up please. I honestly hope you are a troll, but your lack of intelligence is getting really annoying. Please stop posting and let the grown ups have their discussion. It might help if you could write coherent sentences, but your basic uneducated point would still be the same- "run 100 miles a week and you will be great, don't run 100 miles a week and you won't". Do you live the rest of your life this simplistically, never trying to really understand something, just going with one basic thought and clinging to that belief?

To the Arctic Clown: I don't understand why you resort to personal attacks when I am clearly participating in this discussion, and using logic and fact to help guide beginner to expert runners looking for advice. I am sorry I am so unwaivering in my view, I have just been to the mountain top, AND I KNOW,what it takes to get there. So this just goes, for any one out there that is listen, YOU can listen to this Arctic Clown over here, that honestly probs doesnt even know where the proverbial mountain is, let alone its "top". OR you can listen up here, hit those 100mpws and get some long term, sustainable results. its life in a nut shell, short term gains to sacrifice long term potential OR take the hurt endure the pain and get those 100mpws in, and get those LONG TERM GAINS!!!

There's a reason Nate Jenkins is respected more than 14:00 guys that get by on talent. Hard work is more impressive, and earns more respect for good reason.

I play golf but still got to get my mileage in.

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[quote]sorry to rain on your parade wrote:

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I actually thought that was pretty clever, calling me arctic clown. I like it.

I had quite a bit of success in my running career and I had one 100 mile week in my life. I wasn't lazy; far from it. I studied, researched, kept a detailed log, experimented, added cross training, etc. and learned what worked for me. I honestly have seen so many running careers ended because they listened to people like you that thought 100 or miles per week was the ONLY way to go. Yes, for 1000's of runners that is the way to go; for others, not so much.

Work hard everyone, get really dedicated and see how far you can go in your running. It is worth it. However, don't get caught up in what he did or she did. Learn what works for you; and whether that is 140 miles per week or maybe just 80, if that training was what was correct for YOU, you can be satisfied knowing that you gave it your all. Good luck.

BUMP!!!

I think the artic clown is so frustrated with you because you are NOT contributing in this discussion at this point. By being so stubborn and trying so hard to drown out any resisting ideas, you wind up putting a negative influence on this convo.

I respect that you've "been to the mountain top" but realize that there is more than one way up it. and also, if you are willing, how high up the mountian have you been? Even if I ran 12:50 I would not claim its the top because there are still people faster, and besides I dont ever want to put a cap on what I/we can accomplish

Maybe to get back on subject or off subject what are some of the higher milage D2,D3, NAIA etc programs, Just wondering

Why the obsession with mileage?

I know that most of the D3 schools like to keep their mileage rather low. I ran D3, and I ran against your UW schools and North Centrals, and NYUs and based on the guys I spoke with on those teams I would say they average around 60 - 70mpw give or take. D3 runners typically develop less time because 1) they don't have coach breathing down their neck threatening their scholarship 2) historically the runners are student first and do not have the luxury of getting out of classes and moving their schedules around like D1 guys, so they miss practice more often. 3) it just is not the same cut throat competitive atmosphere as D1. It really is more about having fun with and just being fit in the end.

I know for a fact that there are a couple DIII programs that have their top runners routinely in the hundreds, including my own. Four guys on my team have had stints of training in the 100-110 range, with a couple guys hitting even higher. Other guys outside of the top end still hit the 80-90 range pretty regularly.

Are the schools your reffering to big name programs having a lot of success, what region are you in.

3dhistorybuff wrote:

I know that most of the D3 schools like to keep their mileage rather low. I ran D3, and I ran against your UW schools and North Centrals, and NYUs and based on the guys I spoke with on those teams I would say they average around 60 - 70mpw give or take. D3 runners typically develop less time because 1) they don't have coach breathing down their neck threatening their scholarship 2) historically the runners are student first and do not have the luxury of getting out of classes and moving their schedules around like D1 guys, so they miss practice more often. 3) it just is not the same cut throat competitive atmosphere as D1. It really is more about having fun with and just being fit in the end.

That is not what I've heard about North Central or the UW schools.

Colorado Mines has some high milage guys I personally saw Zywicki hit 120+ miles over summer, and in an interview before XC nats he was saying he was still 100+ if im not mistaken. I could run any time of day and see him out on the trails

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Well traditionally: Stanford, Wisconsin, Colorado, and Iona keep their mileage around 65 - 70, so you are in good company. unless you think it hasn't worked for those guys. I mean there are programs like Oregon, that consistently get their guys in the 120+ crowd, but honestly their group of runners is probably the most inconsistent in the country, when talking about big programs that is. My personal view, is that less is more, stay healthy, try to run what you are doing faster, NOT more. One component at a time as my old college coach put it.

Worst advice ever. You are what is wrong with U.S. distance running. Just quit now. Never, ever, I repeate - EVER give advice to anyone ever again. EVER.