Text message to Vin L. this afternoon: Be in my office at 8am Monday morning to explain blowing 2 NCAA titles

belie dat wrote:

This is where you are wrong. Vin is no different than Smith, as you will see. Winning is about DOLLARS, and the sooner you realize this, the more in tune you will be in this world. In time if Vin does not make OU a winning program and not get beat by teams like Texas A&M, he will be shown the door as well. You really think the Alumni had it in for Smith because of his demeanor? Wake up to the real world of MONEY and POWER.[/quote]

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I love how you pretend to have in depth knowledge of the goings on regarding Smiths departure and yet you refer to The Universty of Oregon as OU. Anytime someone does that, all credibility is shot.

Smith was a complete screaming baby control freak AND had quit qualifying cross teams to nationals because he basically quit on distance runners. Post collegiate elite runners had to wait until Smiths guys were done working out before they could use the track(including Oregon alumn runners). Now normally that wouldn't be a problem unless you know how Smith worked out his guys. He'd spend hours with one single athlete on the track. A lot of walking, standing and talking between reps, a lot of yelling and screaming during reps haha. The point is it was all unnecessary and it was all about a bipolar control freak. Despite his best efforts to control himself outside of closed doors he couldn't contain himself in a remotely professional manner and the community and alumni wanted nothing to do with his program. How he thought he could cut distance running out and act like a spoiled control freak brat is way beyond me. The old don't bite the hand that feeds you was a lesson never learned as Martin continued to idolize leaders like Bobby Knight. Due to the 7 (and counting) coaches who have left Oklahoma it is apparant that nothing has changed.[/quote]

"belie dat" has it right, this jibes with everything that this Oregon Alumn heard behind the scenes a few years ago.

Moos made a real mistake in hiring Smith in the first place. A better hire could have and should have been made.

As a result, both men are no longer with the school. They were paid handsomely to leave.

And for the record, in 4 years I never saw Dellinger get angry or be rude to anyone. Not saying it didn't happen, I just never saw it. He was a very grounded guy, in some ways almost too mellow to be a coach.

Schaaf was redshirted for indoors and outdoors. She just reappeared in the last week. I thought she might be seriously injured after missing two seasons. Being healthy she puts the Huskies up on the Lady Ducks by a good margin.

They already won back to back titles. '07 '08 xc.

The Women's XC team title is up for grabs in '09 with Oregon backing up Kosinski and Blood with Scherf, Bridgman (another medical redshirt) and Bies. These five will be challenged by super newcomers in Jordan Hasay, Taylor Wallace and Mel Thompson. Oregon appears to have more depth than Washington and far better new recruits.

That's what they said last year when Oregon got Grelli, Bridgmon, and Scherf. And is Bridgmon really coming back? I know Scherf is.

Washington has Schaaf, Babcock, Lawrence, and Follett. Kailey Campbell has also run great, and Lauren Saylor is also up there.

Better get used to that sprint/jump school. Henry wins more with them than he loses. And he's not a prick like some of the runners up. I saw Vin after the meet on Thur and he was just that.