Salazar's Training (Max Lass=Rupp)

Oregon system son. See: Dellinger, Centrowitz, Tyson and (obviously) Salazar. I am sure there are others too. Peterson at UCLA?

The difference with Salazar's athletes is that they do this system plus a ton of bonus stuff-- alter g, plyos, drills, lifting, pool, pilates, underwater treadmill, etc. They literally do several extra hours of work per week. They also live in mother f***ing altitude houses. I am not sure if they get away with it because he only coaches the cream of the crop (all Ncaa champs prior to him (except Rupp (obviously very talented though))) or because he has some secret Nike recovery system that Phil Knight and company haven't released to the public yet. Scrambled Pigeon eggs perhaps?

Back to the training-- the workouts are the same that the athletes have been doing since the 70s. If you look at the logs of Centro Jr in HS and compare them to Rupp's now you'll see very similar sessions. Obviously Rupp is doing more-- see above-- and doing them faster, but they're the same basic stuff. Check out Pre's workouts from college.

Stuff like:

AM: 5-6 mile tempo

PM: 1200, 800, 600, 400, 300, 200, 100

or

800/300 x 4-5

or

6x800m cutdowns

It's all the damn same.

there's quite a bit you're leaving out. i'm not quite sure where you are getting your info, as some of it is blatantly different as compared to my personal experience. rarely do his (salazar) athletes do 800m repeats (5k and up). more commonly it is sessions of 5x1200m on the track. another favorite of the salazar group (milers and longer) is 10-12 x 400m in 58-60 secs with quick 90 sec 400m between as rest. the cutdown that you mentioned starts with 1600m and sometimes 2k. there is no 100m at the end. there are no 5-6mile tempos. a hard 10 miler now and then, but no tempos of that distance have i ever seen. there is no secret recovery system. it's just plain hard work and doing the small things. (re: farah's comment on the kenyans in bed at night at 9pm). certainly, it is simialr to the dellinger system, but far different. there are bits and pieces from multiple different training philosophies within the "salazar system". i know saladbar gets alot of bad press on here, but he really is a good man who cares for the athletes in his stable. however, you darn sure better produce if you are going to run under him.

you didn't know about the 6 mile tempos at BYU last summer prior to Eugene? GR/JR did at least 2 such runs on the track in 27.40 to 28 low; w/AG dropping once at 5 miles. please note that the 6 milers were in a range of 4-5% slower then the race times produced in July.

KG/AB did cut down workouts ending with a very fast 600 in the mid-low 1,30's; also those two did repeat miles trying to hit 4.50's; not going well for them as they would have liked.

alitude tents had to be tuned down from very high to much lower as the Eugene races came close; more recovery & deeper sleep needed. as a note they slept at 8100 feet in pc, UT & had the tents jacked way up during their sleepy time.

more?

watchful eye wrote:

more?

No, you can stop right there.

Yeah, maybe a little more! Thanks!

Jabe Jennings wrote:

It's all the darn same.

Absolutely!! It's always been the same. Those willing to do the hard work over a period of time will always beat those who just want to do as little as possible and expect super results.

Last year there was a guy, who I didn't coach, on a track team who seriouly wanted to win. But he also was seriouly lazy and would do as little as possible. He had the talent to be a state champ. I remember Timmons saying that there were guys walking the halls who could beat Ryun. It's true and they exist in every HS. Only those willing do the hard work will rise to the top.

my head almost spun off when dr.jim stray-gundersen showed up at the house after the july 4th races. only a few people outside of those that were there that night know of his visit, two of those are well known here at lr.com that i have told of this summer's adventure.

Strange stuff

watchful eye wrote:

my head almost spun off when dr.jim stray-gundersen showed up at the house after the july 4th races. only a few people outside of those that were there that night know of his visit, two of those are well known here at lr.com that i have told of this summer's adventure.