New HEPS thread for 2009

800 prelim results up on Flotrack, we'll make sure to get more events tomorrow...

http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view/235016-2009-ivy-league-heps-championships

kibitzer wrote:

I don't know whether the women and men have different max-squad sizes, reflecting the difference in number of events...

The team sizes are the same. I'm not sure if it's a national standard of havng 35 members per team, or if it's just an Ivy League standard.

No rain overnight. Bright, few clouds, and breezy right now. I'm curious on how quick (or slow) some of the times/distances will be today due to the wind. I know the track is "reversible" but the jumping and vaulting pits are not.

Hopefully flotrack will be filming the finals!

Just heard the weather: wind up to 20 to 30 mph gusts. Sweatshirt weather!

We're trying to film all the finals today for flotrack.

As far as weather goes, it feels pretty hot out, but it's not supposed to get above 75 today. Wind is pretty erratic, there are some big gusts, but then there are decently long periods of calm. Good day for some racing!

Wyner takes the 1500 with the poorest display of sportsmanship in recent history, celebrating about 80m early, and then taking a lovely bow to the crowd after.

I take it back, they have DQd Jimmmy Wyner for his egregious actions!

Mike Maag now your winner.

ivy... wrote:

Wyner takes the 1500 with the poorest display of sportsmanship in recent history, celebrating about 80m early, and then taking a lovely bow to the crowd after.

Without question the biggest tool of a runner in recent memory. His stupidity results in a 12 point swing in Princeton's favor and suddenly the meet has gone from a blowout to Cornell having a decent but far from cushy lead.

not that i put it past jimmy to act in an "unsportsman-like" fashion, but that was really what the dq was for? there was no pushing/elbowing/cutting off? i feel like if you win the race, you win the race. i wasn't there, obviously, but if there was no dirty racing, i feel like you shouldn't be dq-d just because you're an asshole.

amksteeple wrote:

not that i put it past jimmy to act in an "unsportsman-like" fashion, but that was really what the dq was for? there was no pushing/elbowing/cutting off? i feel like if you win the race, you win the race. i wasn't there, obviously, but if there was no dirty racing, i feel like you shouldn't be dq-d just because you're an asshole.

As much as I'm biased towards Princeton, this is true unless he was specifically taunting an individual competitor or group. If he was just showing off then someone should kick his ass in the parking lot after the meet, but his results should count.

The women's meet is shaping up to be ridiculously close. I've been looking at the start list and going over how much each team is likely to gain or lose in each remaining event and it's likely going to be within 10.

"Princeton senior Michael Maag is the 1,500-meter run champion after Cornell’s Jimmy Wyner was disqualified for unsportsmanlike conduct"

Mark Amirault (who was leading at the time) fell with about 500 to go, but it looked like he was just tangled up with someone else, Wyner wasn't near him at the time.

Princeton women scoring bunches of points in distance events. Apparently not just Cornell, but also the other schools in the league, are having trouble breaking them up. Looks like the meet really could come down to the relays.

Wyner finished first in the 1500 and was DQed...don't know the details, but that's not a help! Maag wins the event, with six hundredths of a second covering the first four official places. Still, seems the Cornell men are up by a few points.

The men's side seems to be devolving into the usual PU/CU dual meet; ditto for the women, though four other schools are hanging closer than in recent meets.

Kudos for the coverage from Hepstrack.com and flashresults.com.

Interview with Wyner coming, though he didn't know he was Dq'd at the time of the interview.

For the remaining men's events.. Cornell is currently up by 2. The remaining field events should extend that lead to about 8-10. Add a few points to the lead in the 100m. 400m hurdles is a wash. 200 will, in all probability, bring 2 points to Princeton so let's say the lead is 10 after that. That means Princeton has to make up 10 points in the 5K and 4x400m. Breaking chronological order to analyze the 4x4: After going 1-2 in the 400m their strength at the top basically evens out Cornell's stronger depth, but Eddy may have blasted his prelim a little too hard and Hollimon will have already run 2x400m and 2x200m in the meet. Say Cornell wins, Princeton 2nd. Cornell lead is now 12.

So if Princeton is going to win they need to somehow score 13 points higher than Cornell in the 5K, the possibility of which depends on the relative fatigue of Maag and Wyner after the 5K. It's unlikely, but definitely not impossible. Probable outcome: Cornell wins by 5.

Men's discus should be completed by now but still no results...

can wyner still run the 5k after being dq'ed? just wondering

and hahahahahahahahahahaha at him being dq'ed

video of the 1500m and the last 80m where he was dq'd

http://pennrelaysonline.com/ivy/results.aspx?en=5&r=2

so i just watched the video, and i think he was dqd because of the crowd reaction, and the crowd reacted the way they did because it was jimmy. yes, he acted like a jerk and it was excessive, but if it had been a different runner i don't think people would have made as big of a deal out of it. maybe a response to that is perhaps jimmy should have been more careful and thoughtful about the way he conducted himself the last 4 years, and while that is true, he still won. he also hasn't had the best season, and this would have been his first victory in the 1500 after being in some tight races over the past 4 years. it was excessive and probably rude, but it didn't merit disqualification. it's a track meet...the fastest time wins. he ran the fastest time and he ran it clean. he deserves the victory.

karma's a b$tch, ain't it?

I agree. While he was cocky and a d*ck, it wasn't nearly as excessive as I expected. He should have toned it down, and I'd be annoyed if I was in the race, but it didn't merit a DQ.