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15 years ago 11/25/2008 6:09pm EST

Here are the FL Finalists from the past 4 years. How many of them competed in the NCAA DI Nats this year? DII, DIII, or NAIA? How many All-Americans? Just wondering how being an FL finalist translates up to the college level? And, of course I am too lazy to do the checking myself. Perhaps those of you with a greater knowledge of college XC can help out here.

2007

1 Michael Fout (12) Midwest LaPorte H.S. LaPorte IN 14:50

2 Christopher Derrick (12) Midwest Neuqua Valley H.S. Naperville IL 14:57

3 German Fernandez (12) West Riverbank H.S. Riverbank CA 15:09

4 Colby Lowe (12) South Carroll Senior H.S. Southlake TX 15:12

5 Luke Puskedra (12) West Judge Memorial H.S. Ogden UT 15:15

6 Brandon Jarrett (12) Northeast St. Benedict's Prep Hillsborough NJ 15:16

7 Kevin Havel (12) Midwest John Hersey H.S. Arlington Heights IL 15:18

8 Donn Cabral (12) Northeast Glastonbury H.S. Glastonbury CT 15:19

9 Rob Finnerty (12) Midwest Burnsville H.S. Burnsville MN 15:21

10 Maverick Darling (12) Midwest Ovid-Elsie H.S. Ovid MI 15:23

11 Ryan Hill (12) South Hickory H.S. Hickory NC 15:32

12 Stephen Clark (12) West Skyline H.S. Salt Lake City UT 15:34

13 Mark Dennin (12) Northeast Boyertown H.S. Gilbertsville PA 15:36

14 Patrick Campbell (12) South Mooresville H.S. Mooresville NC 15:38

15 Brian Leung (12) Northeast West Windsor-South Plainsboro H.S.West Windsor NJ 15:41

16 Jason Witt (12) South Midlothian H.S. Midlothian VA 15:43

17 Pat Dupont (12) Northeast Fairport H.S. Fairport NY 15:43

18 Bobby Nicolls (11) Midwest Regis Jesuit H.S. Parker CO 15:44

19 Rory Tunningley (12) South Lockhart H.S. Lockhart TX 15:45

20 Riley Sullivan (12) West Trabuco Hills H.S. Rancho Santa Margarita CA 15:46

21 Evan Appel (11) Midwest Dakota Ridge H.S. Littleton CO 15:48

22 Joseph Manilafasha (11) Midwest Denver North H.S. Denver CO 15:49

23 Jim Walmsley (12) West Horizon H.S. Scottsdale AZ 15:50

24 CJ Brown (11) South Carroll Senior H.S. Southlake TX 15:51

25 James Attarian (12) West Dublin H.S. Dublin CA 15:51

26 Kevin Williams (12) Midwest Develyn H.S. Lakewood CO 15:52

27 Vince McNally (12) Northeast Conestoga Valley Senior High Brownstown PA 15:53

28 Zach Rivers (12) Northeast Victor Senior H.S. Victor NY 15:55

29 Brett Walters (12) West Sultana H.S. Victorville CA 15:58

30 Francisco (Tito) Medrano (12) Midwest Jefferson H.S. Lafayette IN 15:59

31 Chris Aldrich (12) Northeast Henderson H.S. West Chestor PA 16:02

32 Miles Unterreiner (12) West Gig Harbor H.S. Gig Harbor WA 16:03

33 Griff Graves (12) South Abingdon H.S. Abingdon VA 16:05

34 Luke Lovelace (12) South Chapin H.S. Chapin SC 16:07

35 Andrew Judd (12) Northeast Conard H.S. West Hartford CT 16:09

36 Jonathan Lafler (12) West Tahoma Senior H.S. Maple Valley WA 16:09

37 Chris Schwartz (11) West Foothill H.S. Bakersfield CA 16:15

38 Andrew Brodeur (12) Northeast Brick Memorial H.S. Brick NJ 16:17

39 Michael Hammond (12) South Midlothian H.S. Midlothian VA 16:20

40 Thomas Porter (11) South Mountain View H.S. Fredericksburg VA 16:22

2006

1 Chad Hall WE CA 15:20

2 Craig Forys NE NJ 15:24

3 Steve Murdock NE NY 15:25

4 Hassan Mead MW MN 15:28

5 Matt Tebo WE NM 15:28

6 Benjamin Johnson WE NM 15:31

7 Michael Cybulski WE CA 15:31

8 Matthew Centrowitz NE MD 15:34

9 Girma Mecheso SO GA 15:34

10 Colby Lowe SO TX 15:35

11 Ben Hubers SO GA 15:36

12 Brandon Jarrett NE NJ 15:36

13 Russell Farnsworth WE ID 15:44

14 Jake Riley WE WA 15:45

15 Max O'Donoghue-McD. WE WA 15:46

16 Sintayehu Taye NE ME 15:50

17 Ryan Collins NE MA 15:52

18 Richard Medina MW CO 15:52

19 Mikel Thomas WE CA 15:55

20 Tommy Gruenewald NE NY 15:56

21 Donn Cabral NE CT 15:57

22 Jared Ward WE UT 16:02

23 Michael Spooner SO VA 16:03

24 Dan Chenoweth MW IL 16:06

25 Joseph Manilafasha MW CO 16:07

26 Ryan Hill SO NC 16:08

27 Anguel Tolev MW CO 16:09

28 Griffith Graves SO VA 16:11

29 Evan Appel MW CO 16:12

30 Duncan Phillips SO TX 16:18

31 Thomas Porter SO VA 16:19

32 De'Sean Turner MW IN 16:21

33 Elliott Heath MW MN 16:22

34 Kent Morikawa WE CA 16:25

35 Brian Rhodes-Devey NE NY 16:25

36 Luke Lovelace SO SC 16:27

37 Michael Anderson SO FL 16:29

38 Robert Moldovan MW IN 16:33

39 Paul Springer NE PA 17:33

40 Emil Heineking MW OH 17:48

2005

1 AJ Acosta (12) West El Camino H.S. Oceanside CA 15:02

2 Michael Coe (12) West Cabrillo H.S. Lompoc CA 15:02

3 Ryan Craven (12) Midwest Prospect H.S. Mount Prospect IL 15:12

4 Kenny Klotz (12) West Central Catholic H.S. Beaverton OR 15:13

5 Landon Peacock (12) Midwest Cedar Springs H.S. Morley MI 15:15

6 Jack Bolas (12) South Chapel Hill H.S. Chapel Hill NC 15:15

7 Benjamin Sitler (12) West St. Francis H.S. Los Altos CA 15:16

8 Danny Mercado (12) West West Covina H.S. West Covina CA 15:17

9 Evan Jager (11) Midwest HD Jacobs H.S. Algonquin IL 15:18

10 Mohamud Ige (12) Midwest Denver South H.S. Littleton CO 15:21

11 Diego Mercado (12) West West Covina H.S. West Covina CA 15:22

12 Daniel Roberts (12) Midwest Crested Butte Academy Nicksburk CO 15:27

13 Michael Eaton (12) South Greenwood H.S. Bowling Green KY 15:27

14 Tradelle Ward (12) Northeast Griswold H.S. Griswold CT 15:28

15 De'Sean Turner (11) Midwest Warren Central H.S. Indianapolis IN 15:29

16 Matthew Tebo (11) West El Dorado H.S. Albuquerque NM 15:32

17 Ayalew Taye (11) Northeast Cushing Academy Ashburnham MA 15:32

18 Ben Hubers (11) South McEachern H.S. Marietta GA 15:34

19 Noah Shannon (12) Midwest Fort Collins H.S. Fort Collins CO 15:39

20 Jay Koloseus (12) Northeast Guilford H.S. Guilford CT 15:40

21 Keith Capecci (12) Northeast Council Rock North H.S. New Hope PA 15:40

22 Jeremy Stevens (12) Midwest Winnebago H.S. Winnebago IL 15:41

23 Sintayehu Taye (10) Northeast Cushing Academy Ashburnham MA 15:43

24 Noel Bateman (12) Northeast Aquinas H.S. Rochester NY 15:43

25 Brian Rhodes-Devey (11) Northeast Guilderland H.S. Slingerlands NY 15:44

26 Jeff Perrella (12) Northeast Westfield H.S. Westfield NJ 15:45

27 Greg Kelsey (12) Northeast Saratoga Springs H.S. Saratoga Springs NY 15:45

28 Isaac Stoutenburgh (12) West Crater H.S. Central Point OR 15:49

29 Colby Lowe (10) South Southlake Carroll H.S. Southlake TX 15:52

30 Rob Sorrell (12) South Bolton H.S. Memphis TN 15:53

31 Jeffrey Helmer (12) West Jackson H.S. Snohomish WA 15:54

32 Clay Hannah (12) South Lebanon H.S. Lebanon TN 16:04

33 Stephen Finley (12) Midwest Palatine H.S. Palatine IL 16:08

34 Brock Hagerman (12) Midwest Pendelton Heights H.S. Markleville IN 16:09

35 Joshua Hibbs (12) Northeast Hatboro Horsham H.S. Hatboro PA 16:10

36 Taylor Nepon (12) West Mead H.S. Spokane WA 16:14

37 Duncan Phillips (11) South A & M Consolidated College Station TX 16:18

38 Brad Siragusa (11) South Chantilly H.S. Herndon VA 16:43

39 Daniel Gerber (12) South The Woodlands H.S. The Woodlands TX 18:07

40 Justin Harbor (12) South Flagler Palm Coast H.S. Palm Coast FL

2004

1 Kenneth Cormier (12) West Douglas H.S. Douglas AZ 15:22

2 Andrew Bumbalough (12) South Brentwood Academy Brentwood TN 15:24

3 Mark Matusak (12) West Loyola H.S. Torrance CA 15:26

4 John McGuire (12) Midwest D'Evelyn H.S. Golden CO 15:27

5 Chris Rombough (12) Midwest New London H.S. New London WI 15:30

6 Christopher Barnicle (12) Northeast Newton North H.S. Newton MA 15:34

7 Justin Switzer (12) Midwest Waterford Kettering H.S. Waterford MI 15:35

8 Robbie Baranyi (12) West Eisenhower H.S. Yakima WA 15:35

9 AJ Acosta (11) West El Camino H.S. Oceanside CA 15:38

10 Levi Fox (12) Midwest Troy H.S. Troy OH 15:38

11 Brandon Bethke (12) West El Toro H.S. Lake Forest CA 15:41

12 Sean McNamara (12) Midwest York H.S. Elmhurst IL 15:42

13 Mohamud Ige (11) Midwest Denver South H.S. Denver CO 15:44

14 John Martinez (12) Northeast North Rockland H.S. Stony Point NY 15:44

15 Craig Miller (11) Northeast Manheim Twp. H.S. Lancaster PA 15:46

16 Sandy Roberts (11) South Broughton H.S Raleigh NC 15:50

17 Ryan Sheridan (10) Northeast Walt Whitman H.S. Melville NY 15:50

18 Daniel Roberts (11) Midwest Vicksburg H.S. Vicksburg MI 15:53

19 Jake Schmitt (12) West Redwood H.S. Kentfield CA 15:54

20 Diego Mercado (11) West West Covina H.S. West Covina CA 15:55

21 John Black (12) Midwest Brother Rice H.S. Bloomfield Hills MI 15:56

22 Jeff See (12) Midwest Middletown H.S. Middletown OH 16:02

23 Jeff Weiss (12) Northeast McGuffey H.S. Avella PA 16:02

24 Kenny Klotz (11) West Central Catholic H.S. Beaverton OR 16:03

25 Kevin Tschirhart (12) Northeast Northport H.S. Northport NY 16:05

26 Cory Thorne (12) Northeast Portsmouth H.S. Portsmouth NH 16:09

27 Yosef Ghebray (12) West James Logan H.S. Union City CA 16:12

28 Bobby Papazian (12) Northeast Gill St. Bernards H.S. Pittstown NJ 16:13

29 Andy Biladeau (12) South Tampa Jesuit H.S. Lutz FL 16:16

30 Riley Booker (11) West University City H.S. San Diego CA 16:18

31 Jack Bolas (11) South Chapel Hill H.S. Chapel Hill NC 16:21

32 Robert Bedsole (12) South Hoover H.S. Hoover AL 16:21

33 Michael Eaton (11) South Greenwood H.S. Bowling Green KY 16:22

34 Matt Dettman (11) Midwest York H.S. Bensenville IL 16:30

35 Daniel LaCava (12) South Grace Prep Academy Hurst TX 16:32

36 Thomas Gruenewald (10) Northeast Fayetteville-Manlius H.S. Manlius NY 16:33

37 Andrew McCann (11) Northeast Fayetteville-Manlius H.S. Manlius NY 16:47

38 Benjamin Schulz (12) South The Woodlands H.S. The Woodlands TX 16:49

39 Scott MacPherson (12) South Plano Senior H.S. Plano TX 16:53

40 Justin Harbor (11) South Flagler Palm Coast H.S. Palm Coast FL 17:09

15 years ago 11/25/2008 7:09pm EST

re: LaZee Arse

Wow... Justin Harbor continued his hot streak from H.S. right into NCAA Div 1. That's hard to do. People always talk about a tough transition from H.S. to college, but he's clearly maintained his level of performance very well.

15 years ago 11/25/2008 7:42pm EST

re: Wanganui Jim

Wanganui Jim wrote:
Wow... Justin Harbor continued his hot streak from H.S. right into NCAA Div 1. That's hard to do. People always talk about a tough transition from H.S. to college, but he's clearly maintained his level of performance very well.

Wow. It's an accomplishment to get to the Footlocker national championships or NCAA championships, but to finish dead last at Footlocker twice and NCAA's once...that is something. By chance did he run in the 2007 NCAA champs? He was not one of the 6th Florida State finishers listed in the results, but I wonder if he has a DNF in there too.

15 years ago 11/25/2008 8:05pm EST

re: leaping lanny

It is truly amazing how many of these top 40 HS guys end up doing little or nothing after HS. There are lot's of HS kids training way over their heads to get to this level in HS and there is no where for them to go once they leave.

First two question's any college caoch should ask a recruit is how do you train and how long have you been running seriously?

15 years ago 11/25/2008 8:26pm EST

re: A maze ING

A couple problems with running success. Injuries are very easy to get compared to other sports. The difference between winning and getting 20th may only be 5 seconds a mile. A winner can stay the same and find himself falling back very rapidly as others just make small improvements.

15 years ago 11/25/2008 8:55pm EST

re: ripvanracer

15 years ago 11/25/2008 10:32pm EST

re: LaZee Arse

Fun facts:

49 of these finalists (I'm including 2003) finished DI Nats this year. Add in German and not sure who else DNFed.

14 of them were All-American. Of those, 9 of them finished in the top 5.

There are about 129 different guys who have run footlocker from 2004-2007 and have graduated. 40 of them finished DI Nats yesterday.

Wisconsin's top 7 was made up of footlocker finalists and 6 of Oregon's 7.

Every 2nd and 5th place finalist from 2003-2007 was in this race.

Only one footlocker champ from the past five years raced (Matt Withrow).

I should probably do something with my life now.

15 years ago 11/26/2008 12:55am EST

re: procastinating

Let's add to the stats ...

Out of the top 100 finishers at NCAAs, there appear to be 68 Americans. 32 of those are FL finalists. An additional 9 ran either 4:10 or better or 9:00 or better (or 3:52/8:23) in high school. That's AT LEAST 41 real blue chippers out of the top 68 guys who ran in the US high school system (maybe a few more - I didn't find everybody's high school stats). Virtually all of the remaining runners in the top 100 (actually, most of the runners in the entire race) are 4:15/9:15 or faster types. That includes guys in the top 100 like:

Dan Busby (4:13/9:11)

Colin Leak (8:36)

Kyle Perry (4:13)

Tommy Betterbed (9:11)

Jason Weller (4:15y/9:02)

Kiel Uhl (9:06?)

Pat Sovacool (4:11)

Jeff Schirmer (4:15)

Michael Maag (3:56/8:26)

Kyle Dawson (9:07)

Jeremy Criscione (9:05y?)

Jesse Luciano (4:13)

Andrew Wheating (3:54/14:55i 5k)

So it's obvious there aren't a whole lot of cinderella stories at this meet. Even most of the guys who came a long way to get to the level they reached (Jordan Kyle, Paul Limpf, Tim Ritchie, etc.) were still not crappy in high school. They just look like former nobodies compared to Rupp, Fernandez, Derrick, Coe, Mead, Bumbalough, Lowe, Rombough and the other FL top fives and sub-8:50 guys.

15 years ago 11/26/2008 1:05am EST

re: procastinating

procastinating wrote:
Of those, 9 of them finished in the top 5.

This seems unlikely.

15 years ago 11/26/2008 1:38am EST

re: someguy

9 of those all-americans finished in the top 5 at footlockers, that is.

15 years ago 12/04/2008 7:05pm EST

re: LaZee Arse

puskedra goes from 15:15 k to 29:30ish 10k in one year....damn

15 years ago 12/04/2008 7:50pm EST

re: wowowoww

Look at that 2005 Footlocker group and where they went to school

1. Oregon

2. Cal

3. Wisconsin

4. Oregon

5. Wisconsin

6. Wisconsin

7. Princeton

8. Oregon

9. Wisconsin

10. Juco

11. Oregon

19. Wisconsin

28. Oregon

15 years ago 12/04/2008 8:33pm EST

re: wowowoww

wowowoww wrote:
puskedra goes from 15:15 k to 29:30ish 10k in one year....damn

I watched him run 14:40's for a legit 5k XC at 3,000ft elevation by himself as a senior.. as did anyone else who was in Boise for the HS meet there.

15 years ago 12/04/2008 9:22pm EST

re: Zipper xyz

i saw kyle perry lose his home meet this season by almost 30 seconds. he was 5th or 6th. he peaked right huh? he wasn't top 14 at his foot locker meet either. gives hope to good hs runners to keep working hard.

15 years ago 12/04/2008 9:37pm EST

re: cougarfan

Several years back I was top 50 at nats. I never made FL and was a 4:20/9:20 guy in HS. Don't give up folks, Foot Locker and high school times mean nothing the day after graduation. Chase your dreams.

15 years ago 12/04/2008 10:21pm EST

re: washedup

I bet you ended up running about 29:35 on the track though. Sounds like you had a poor HS coach.

15 years ago 12/04/2008 11:03pm EST

re: cougarfan

cougarfan wrote:
i saw kyle perry lose his home meet this season by almost 30 seconds. he was 5th or 6th. he peaked right huh? he wasn't top 14 at his foot locker meet either. gives hope to good hs runners to keep working hard.

His high school times were at altitude, weren't they? He's also got to be at least 24 years old. The BYU web site has him on the roster in 2002. Big, big, big difference between having 4 years to run in college between the ages of 18 and 22 and having a 6 year period to run for 4 years, including a few years at ages 22-24.

This isn't meant to come off undermining Perry. He still had to work his butt off and did a great job to get where he did, of course. But if everybody in the NCAA got to run at age 24, we'd see more college guys at his level and some performances that make All-American now wouldn't be in the top 100.

15 years ago 12/04/2008 11:11pm EST

re: wwweb

washedup wrote:
Several years back I was top 50 at nats. I never made FL and was a 4:20/9:20 guy in HS. Don't give up folks, Foot Locker and high school times mean nothing the day after graduation. Chase your dreams.

wwweb wrote:
I bet you ended up running about 29:35 on the track though. Sounds like you had a poor HS coach.

Or maybe, either by deliberate design or by dumb luck, he had a good high school program.

15 years ago 12/05/2008 11:45am EST

re: give them a chance to develop

Not every FL finalist does great in college

Even people that have won the whole thing have struggled in college. For example the 1995 Footlocker Champ Abdul. Didnt run as to his expectations in college...

15 years ago 12/05/2008 1:14pm EST

re: Not All

I need to do a little more research, but I don't think we've had people who are top 10 FL get top 10 at NCAAs for many years. Puskedra and Derrick are major exceptions. We have had FL winners also become NCAA champs and others do well, but they usually need a few maturing years.

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