Thigpen was the man wrote:
KRod was overrated. He had more chances for saves so he got that record only because the Angles won a bunch in a week division.
Check your stats. Frankie Rodriguez pitched in one less game than Thigpen did in 1990 and yet recorded 5 more saves. And the Angels (not "Angles") didn't stick him in for every save opportunity. Scot Shields also had 4 saves for the Angels this year.
I don't really know anything about baseball, nor do I care to, but I'm just curious as to why you felt the need to put specify that you were talking about the Los Angeles that is in California in the topic by putting the name of the state in parenthesis after the name of the city. Is there even another city or town in the US named Los Angeles, and if so, did you really think that people would be confused between the two? LA is the second largest city in the country. I doubt many people are Seeing "Los Angeles" and thinking, "Hmm...I wonder where that is."
It's easily confused for Los Angeles, Chile or Los Angeles, Nicaragua.
Ha, yeah. How are their MLB teams doing this year, by the way?
It's an attempt to dis the Angels for using California, Anaheim, and Los Angeles as their location name. Kind of funny since the Patriots are known as the "New England" Patriots as if all of that area roots for Bill Bellacheat and Randy Moss.
rooting for the overachievers wrote:
Compared to the Rays? Lowest payroll in MLB. $43.8M got them the AL East title and into the ALCS.
Oh I give great credit to the Rays for all that they've achieved this year. They have also done it on excellent player development. But any decent system should get you very good players with 4 #1 picks in 10 years (along with a 2, two 3s, a 4, a 6, and an 8 in those years), producing Josh Hamilton (tough story there in his development but great player), Delmon Young (traded to Minnesota in the Garza deal), David Price (their top prospect, drafted last year and already got a September call-up and made the playoff roster), and this year Tim Beckham; other top 10 picks were Rocco Baldelli (6, 2000), B.J. Upton (2, 2002), and Evan Longoria (3, 2006). Given how young the team is, of course they are going to be cheap. Only 11 position players and 7 pitchers have played enough years to be eligible for free agency (either on pre-arb salaries, arbitration salaries, or long-term deals that they signed pre-arb - typically cheaper than market because more risk involved). This makes them cheap. Their veterans are role players that they brought in via free agency to help guide the team. It is a great job of building a franchise, and it will be interesting to see if this success hurts their future player development because their draft picks will not be as high. This doesn't take away from the fact, though, that the Red Sox have also shifted to player development as a strategy over free agent signings to build the team (and should lead to further payroll decreases in the future), which is different than teams like the Yankees, Tigers, and Mets. Also, as a side note, the Rays' payroll is second lowest in MLB to Florida.
Player development wrote:
Also, as a side note, the Rays' payroll is second lowest in MLB to Florida.
Correction noted. Didn't realize the Marlins payroll was half that of the Rays.
The Angels really blew it on that error that scored three runs when they let the ball drop in the outfield. That's the kind of mental mistakes that cost them the series.
That miscue was actually ruled a 3-run single, not an error... the only such play ever in MLB post-season history. And that miscue didn't cost them that game or the series. That happened in the only game the Angels won.
What's that choking sound I hear down in South Florida? Oh, that's just the Red Sox getting ousted by the Rays.
GOOOOOOOOOOOO RAYS!
WDIM ? 1/2 the friggin players in the majors were born and raised in Southern California anyways. On most teams, maybe one player is a from the same state if that much. All pro teams are like that.
Saint Pete wrote:
What's that choking sound I hear down in South Florida? Oh, that's just the Red Sox getting ousted by the Rays.
GOOOOOOOOOOOO RAYS!
I wouldn't say the Sox choked after the way they came back from the dead. And the fact that they are so beat up. The Sox got further than I thought they would this year. Garza pitched a great game - hats off to him. The Rays were a slightly better team this year, and that's the way the series played out.
Good luck against Philly.
Now here's some advice to Rays fans:
1. Next season it might be nice if you actually turn up decent crowds to regular season games. You might be in the World Series this year, but you have a long way to go before becoming a 'baseball' town.
2. Get rid of that crappy stadium with the catwalks.
3. You actually should be pretty good after over a decade of #1 draft choices. Good luck holding on to all of those guys.
4. The mohawks look retarded. It makes you guys look like a high school football team.
I wouldn't say the Sox choked after the way they came back from the dead. And the fact that they are so beat up. The Sox got further than I thought they would this year. Garza pitched a great game - hats off to him. The Rays were a slightly better team this year, and that's the way the series played out.
Good luck against Philly.
Now here's some advice to Rays fans:
1. Next season it might be nice if you actually turn up decent crowds to regular season games. You might be in the World Series this year, but you have a long way to go before becoming a 'baseball' town.
2. Get rid of that crappy stadium with the catwalks.
3. You actually should be pretty good after over a decade of #1 draft choices. Good luck holding on to all of those guys.
4. The mohawks look retarded. It makes you guys look like a high school football team.[/quote]
Typical Bostonian, gotta always be critical. The Sox have a $183 miliion dollar payroll, they don't need high draft choices they can buy a good team, the Rays have a $43 million dollar payroll. It should not be close.
The $183 million dollar team choked or is overpayed and old, your choice.
How does Bay for Manny look? How many times did Bay strike out in this series? I know he struck out 186 times during the season. Varitek is pathetic, nothing else needs to be said.
And Ortiz is nothing with the new drug testing policy.
Don't worry Boston 86 years goes by pretty quickly, 2093 will be here before you know it.
As people have said above - Sox payroll is only 140mill - of course a lot more than the rays but hardly the 180 million you suggest. I dont see how you can start comparing the Sox to the Yanks in terms of buying there title - sox are closer in salary to more than 20 mlb teams than they are to the yanks. and if you take Manny's 20 mill off then they are barely in the top 8 for salaries.
agreed - varitek is pretty pathetic. sox should offer him no more than 3 years at 5 mill per - or 2 years at 7 mill per. varitek/boras of course think they are worth more than that. anyone wants to pay them more than that are crazy...
blo sox... wrote:
Typical Bostonian, gotta always be critical. The Sox have a $183 miliion dollar payroll, they don't need high draft choices they can buy a good team, the Rays have a $43 million dollar payroll. It should not be close.
The $183 million dollar team choked or is overpayed and old, your choice.
How does Bay for Manny look? How many times did Bay strike out in this series? I know he struck out 186 times during the season. Varitek is pathetic, nothing else needs to be said.
And Ortiz is nothing with the new drug testing policy.
Don't worry Boston 86 years goes by pretty quickly, 2093 will be here before you know it.
Here we go again - 86 years. Don't you have anything better than that? I'll bet you said that in 2005 and 2006 as well. Then - whoops - the Red Sox won in 2007. Time to restart the tired '86 years' chant again because we're so unoriginal.