AJ Acosta in the 1500M Final Thanks to LetsRun.com

Nice for him, but a very crowded final.

Ha! Thats a thread title I never thought I'd see.....

irony ftw...

Yes, because three more people on the track suddenly makes the final "crowded"

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WTF man wrote:

Yes, because three more people on the track suddenly makes the final "crowded"

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Speak for yourself

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haha, YO wrote:

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WTF man wrote:

Yes, because three more people on the track suddenly makes the final "crowded"

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Said someone who has never run an elite 1500.

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i think he mostly meant in a championship setting where the pace will be slow and the field all grouped together.

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just saying wrote:

i think he mostly meant in a championship setting where the pace will be slow and the field all grouped together.

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In many bureaucratic organizations getting a decision corrected can be like stopping a supertanker, but I think the NCAA deserves considerable credit for responding so quickly when it was brought to their attention.

(And FWIW - It was ME that was unaware of the Rule - not the NCAA! I had forgotten the discussion I had with RoJo at Heps.)

Honestly, this happens really rarely - that there is a tie to 1/100th in a non-laned race for the LAST qualifying position - that it just went un-noticed.

Giles

Yay now Jager can crush him again!

I find this fascinat:

I can't believe that one of the great coaches (or if you dont think Lannana is a good coach, then one of the great managers of his athletes) in the country didn't catch this critical mistake.

Obviously is doesn't happen often, so it's a rule that wouldn't be used much. But when do AJ, Vin, and Phil Knight come on letsrun.com so say thank you to ROJO?

Championship races are different. The runners are more even in ability and the nature of the racing is different. Furthermore, the results are of more consequence.

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Get a grip wrote:

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just saying wrote:

i think he mostly meant in a championship setting where the pace will be slow and the field all grouped together.

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Anyone who ever ran at Penn Relays back in the day is laughing at these posts - the old COA races for DM, 4x1500 and 4x800 had at least 20 teams in them.

If these guys are worried about a crowd they just need to strap on a pair and run.

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If it's an NCAA rule then why is thanks needed to Lets ask for approval?

If the camera's can go to thousandth then let them go to the thousandth. He really was the 13th best according to the camera. Why allow someone less deserving into the final. Are they going to give out 2 golds if they are tied at the hundredth, I hope not. We don't live in ancient times anymore they are capable of picking winners and losers.

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DaveW wrote:

If it's an NCAA rule then why is thanks needed to Lets ask for approval?

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It's good that he runs.

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wejo wrote:

Rojo just received a call saying that AJ Acosta is in the 1500m final.

Acosta originally missed the final by 3/1000ths of a second. But our very own Rojo posted in this thread:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=2527037

that there is an NCAA rule saying if there is space on the track athletes timed to the same 100th of a second should all advance to the final.

"Tie for Last Qualifying Position
ARTICLE 8. In the event of a tie for the last qualifying place for a
subsequent race, and assuming positions on the track are available, the tying
runners all shall qualify. If enough lanes are not available, the position(s)
shall be determined by reading the phototiming devices to the 1/1,000th of a
second or lesser fraction, whenever possible, and then by a runoff or drawn
by lot, based on a decision before the meet by the games committee."

Apparently, the meet was not even aware of this rule based on their initially ruling but now AJ is in the finals after Giles Norton of Finishlynx saw Rojo's post.

Here's the Oregon release on AJ NOT making the finals:
http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&ATCLID=1480286&DB_OEM_ID=500

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Rules Suck wrote:

If the camera's can go to thousandth then let them go to the thousandth. He really was the 13th best according to the camera. Why allow someone less deserving into the final. Are they going to give out 2 golds if they are tied at the hundredth, I hope not. We don't live in ancient times anymore they are capable of picking winners and losers.

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I dont think you should waste your time in the NCAA with the 1/100th vs 1/1000th argument. Take it to the IAAF. Why are 100m sprinters still measured in 100ths???