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16 years ago 04/15/2008 12:43am EDT

re: Intergalactic

the special thing about BALCO, is that it was automatically going to beat all tests.

So Maurice Greene must have been using something as good as or better than BALCO before the alleged use occured. Dragging Maurice in front of something if you don't have proof he used in 96,97,98,99,2000,01, and 02 is assanine at best. The only proof he used is when his performances began a steep nosedive. What good BALCO did him huh?

he appears clean to me, but we'll have to see. This could be so much bigger, or so much smaller also. I don't think doping was good enough to beat the tests everytime.

By Comparison, EPO in Regina Jacobs worked wonders on her, at her advanced age. BALCO couldn't even partially do the same for Maurice then.

If he did use, it was for his last year, thats all they have him on, which is why I'm reluctant to say he's completely innocent until we learn more. And really, some good it did him huh? 9.87 for Maurice is slow if he was doped, thats what I'm saying. Its not impossible he doped, but appears highly unlikely.

This discuss dickhead seems to be grasping at straws, any name he can really. Conte, well of course. And Graham? Complete dirt bag. Scum of the earth, doesn't even care for the sport that made him something, he just took from it all he could, and then some.

16 years ago 04/15/2008 1:02am EDT

re: Intergalactic

When I say that what he didn't wasn't otherworldly is in the context of FloJo's marks, or the Eastern Europeans (or the Chinese 3000m mark) which are out of this world.

Greene was a better 100m runner than Lewis; no question. He was a panther out of the blocks, very, very explosive whereas Lewis was a better overall sprinter. It's the difference between Greene and Powell, who could explode out of the blocks everytime, and Lewis and Tyson Gay, who have less consistent starts but better top-end speed (and thus better 200m ability).

16 years ago 04/15/2008 1:09am EDT

re: I love peeps

One would have to be quite naive about the world of athletics to believe your comments.Mo likely started on supplemental means when he became involved with John Smith...who admitted under sworn testimony at the Royal Commission to Inquire into the Use of Drugs and Banned Practices Intended to Increase Athletic Performance re his own personal use of PEDs.Geb made huge drops from 1994 to 1995. In '94 he appeared exhausted at the end of his 12;56. By comparison, in '95, he barely looked fatigued after running 12;44.Of course Geb has doped.

I love peeps wrote:
he was injured in 96, and he was also fairly young 21/22.
had he not been injured, and made the team he probably would have been significantly faster in 96.
But if he started doping in 96, he passed every drug test, and that was before the documents tying him to Balco. We need to check, but Conte wasn't that far into T&F yet by 96. He may have been, we don't know, but it doesn't appear that way. It appears he started really going big into pro-sports around 2000-2001, and thats why Graham wanted to take over, killing his cash cow and soon to land him in federal prison. Maybe he'll run over to China or something- lol.
You know, Alan Webb made a similar jump at the age of 18, from 4:03 the previous year to 3:53 in the open mile. Haile made similar gains from 92-93. They're all doped right?
Maurice Green is the closest thing to a Bell-Curve you can come- if he was doping it was the most meticulous doping program we have ever seen, and if doping is that good well it makes everything unbelievable then. Honestly, I believe Maurice Greene was less likely to have doped than Bekele. If you can't believe Greene was clean, you can't believe Bekele was clean.

16 years ago 04/15/2008 1:26am EDT

re: ex-stasi

ex-stasi wrote:
Geb made huge drops from 1994 to 1995. In '94 he appeared exhausted at the end of his 12;56. By comparison, in '95, he barely looked fatigued after running 12;44.
Of course Geb has doped.
I love peeps wrote:
he was injured in 96, and he was also fairly young 21/22.
had he not been injured, and made the team he probably would have been significantly faster in 96.
But if he started doping in 96, he passed every drug test, and that was before the documents tying him to Balco. We need to check, but Conte wasn't that far into T&F yet by 96. He may have been, we don't know, but it doesn't appear that way. It appears he started really going big into pro-sports around 2000-2001, and thats why Graham wanted to take over, killing his cash cow and soon to land him in federal prison. Maybe he'll run over to China or something- lol.
You know, Alan Webb made a similar jump at the age of 18, from 4:03 the previous year to 3:53 in the open mile. Haile made similar gains from 92-93. They're all doped right?
Maurice Green is the closest thing to a Bell-Curve you can come- if he was doping it was the most meticulous doping program we have ever seen, and if doping is that good well it makes everything unbelievable then. Honestly, I believe Maurice Greene was less likely to have doped than Bekele. If you can't believe Greene was clean, you can't believe Bekele was clean.

Is this what you call evidence? It is no other possible explanation? Not even the fact that the more you run inside 13'00, the less the race comes from one's aerobic power system and more their VO2 Max? Or what about Sebastian Coe who, after running his 3'47"33 WR in 1981 had plenty of energy, enough to shout at the press just off track? Or Alan Webb, who went from 3'44 to 3'32 in a single year?

It seems that all your "certain conclusions" are based off nothing more than conjecture. Am I wrong?

16 years ago 04/15/2008 1:34am EDT

re: I love peeps

If he did use, it was for his last year, thats all they have him on, which is why I'm reluctant to say he's completely innocent until we learn more. And really, some good it did him huh? 9.87 for Maurice is slow if he was doped, thats what I'm saying. Its not impossible he doped, but appears highly unlikely.

9.87 was bloody fast for a 2004 Maurice. He was 30 years old, overweight, and three years removed from his last successful season.

16 years ago 04/15/2008 1:37am EDT

re: marijuologist

maurice was and is my favourite sprinter. i seriously hope this isnt true. either way his name is tarnished and all his times will be under suscpicion.

16 years ago 04/15/2008 1:47am EDT

re: deadperson

you believe all his times are suspicious? You're an idiot, you haven't even read the material. You're just blindly posting like a moron. Read and add something of value or shut up.

-Gabby

16 years ago 04/15/2008 1:50am EDT

re: ex-stasi

ex-stasi is obviously quite sophisticated.

He has some agenda, I wonder what his real identity is. Whats your deal stas? Jealous? Not talented enough? Didn't win?

Got Caught?

lol, I can read through you like a book.

RIP mate.

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