National Intelligence Estimate: Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003

I think this topic is disallowed since it is too embarrassing for wejo's Dad's ol' buddy Dubya. I say that because I've seen threads started on it a few times in the last 2 days, began to reply to those threads, and BANG.....they were removed before they had barely begun. Maybe that's because campaign season is heating up, and wejo has to try and protect the Repubs the best he can.

Did Iran halt their nuclear bomb program because they saw just how fast we could destroy a country?

The U.S. invades and bombs the shit out of Iraq spring of 03. U.S. justifies the bombing,overthrow and occupation of Iraq siting Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs as a threat threat to the United States.A few months Iraq is wiped out and Iran halts their nuclear weapons of mass destruction program.

My poli sci professor roomed with a guy who worked in some capacity in Iran's Nuclear Weapons program or at least knew someting about it. He said that it would take them at least 50 years to get everything right and actually have a bomb. Im not saying we want them working on one but the Bush administration is def using scare tactics on this one at least to a certain extent.

hey you stupid fvcktards - why do you believe this intelligence and not the intelligence about iraq?

its the same damn department!

c'mon at least be consistent - it is just like when euro cyclists get busted for drugs, no one questions the tests but obviously the tests are flawed when someone like landis or hamilton is busted.

FiftyOne wrote:

Did Iran halt their nuclear bomb program because they saw just how fast we could destroy a country?

The U.S. invades and bombs the shit out of Iraq spring of 03. U.S. justifies the bombing,overthrow and occupation of Iraq siting Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs as a threat threat to the United States.A few months Iraq is wiped out and Iran halts their nuclear weapons of mass destruction program.

Yes because that's all they know in Iran. The Dems think they can give Iran nucleur weapons and the world will be a safer place. They think our country doesn't understand the oppression they been through, that Iran needs sympathy and understanding. In other words, give them aid and comfort like the traitors they are.

Thank goodness we have a president with the knowledge and courage to understand this enemy.

We still need to NOOK them just to be sure besides their only brown peeple and NOT cHristyians

I've read the classified NIE and the intel that backs it up. When you talk about a country's nuclear weapons program you need to talk about two things: capability and intent.

The Iranians probably stopped the weapons development program in fall 2003. That's a pretty good assessment based on the information we have. But, we don't have perfect information and never will. Why they stopped it is speculation, but could be connected to the Mar 03 invasion of Iraq (didn't want to be next on the axis of evil hit parade, etc...). It should at least frighten people a little that the Iranians had an active program while always denying it.

On capability, the Iranians are currently spinning approximately 3,000 centrifuges at the Natanz underground enrichment plant. Most of those centrifuge cascades (18 total now), if not all, are being fed with UF6. The Iranians are enriching to about 6% - low enriched uranium needed to fuel a power plant. There is no evidence that they have enriched uranium to a weapons-grade level (98%). But, by defying the international community and continuing uranium enrichment (they claim they want to build over 50,000 centrifuges), Iran is building the technical capability and expertise to transition to a clandestine enrichment program if the intent changes. They clearly want that option. That is basically what Pakistan did.

The media has made too big a deal about Pres. Bush's comments today. The Administration is trying to de-escalate the situation so they can focus on the Middle East Peace Process. If they wanted to keep beating the war drum, they simply would have not released the NIE.

Who the hell are you? Tony Snow?

Bush is trying to "deescalate" the situation? He's trying not to look like a complete f-ing jacka$$ after the entire world has dismissed his claims on Iran. Our own intelligence community confirms what all of our allies and enemies suspected. And Bush turns around and says this just confirms my a$$backwards bellicose policy towards a country I don't understand and not to mention my 2006-7 policies are responsible for halting their weapons program back in 2003 because I am crazy like that.

We all look like jacka$$es and rightfully so.

I am sorry, I don't mean to make a personal attack toward you, but this sort of apologism towards Bush is completely unwarranted and frankly frightfully naive.

Biker, are you still bitter about the election? You have to admit that thanks to Bush we're on the right track. The middle east has never had more hope for stability, democracy and prosperity. The right road is always paved with the most obstacles and it takes strong men to walk that road. History will remember the war in Iraq and the war on terror as turning points for the world and the greatest victory of our country. We can thank Bush and Cheney for having the insight, vision and courage to shepperd us through this valley of darkness for they are truly our brothers keeper and the finders of lost children. And they have struck down with great vengence and furious anger those who've attempted to poison and destroy our brothers and the world will now know the name AMERICA!, during the next terrorist attempt, when we lay down our vengence upon thee.

10/10. perfect trolling. i laughed.

10/10 for using the Pulp Fiction quote alone. TIGHT!

ok. You win. I will accept my white man's burden like a good little American and stick out this time.

Thanks for straightening me out, Brother. I was going a little liberal on my ass, there.

well thanks for being so considerate.

Nukes may not be in Iran.

But they are in Syria.

This is no time for heroics. Bush and Cheney know very well that they failed to take Iran on this path, and they are going to have to use another means to secure the middle east. Too many nukes and fundamentalist Islamics running around.

Mossad had the situation with Syria a few months ago,

We have Pakistan gone completely to hell, and they have nukes and fundamentalists, in some cases only a few hundred feet apart.

We have Russian mobsters selling uranium to anyone with Oil money.

We have North Korea and Chinese agents causing trouble for the express purpose of creating havoc for America.

Really, the only end result is Nuclear War. So what. This changes nothing, and if any of you knew that you would realize that very quickly.

RunDaddy the intent is two fold.

Bush and Cheney know they don't have any political capital. The Neocons and the leaders know very well what will happen with Iran. They decided to let the liberals deal with the mushroom cloud.

Unfortunately individuals like you and me understand the gravity of the situation. So what if they're not building nukes. Really, so what. They just buy one on the open market from somewhere with lots of them. Iran. Russia. North Korea. Whats the difference? To most of these individuals that could never happen because the world is a perfect happy place.

Bush and Cheney can do nothing in terms of Iran becausing of the whining Liberals- which they intend to use politically to show as inept, which they are. Look, I hate war. Those that know me on this board personally know I do. But we have one chance at stopping this crap. Everyone wants the IRS to go away, and at the same time they want their Social Security benefits.

They want cheap oil, yet at the same time they don't want us to deal with tyrants, when we have too.

They don't understand how complicated the world is because they have never taken a breath defending what their world is. They don't understand.

A Terrorist will blow up NYC no matter if Iran has a nuclear program or not. They don't understand that. Invading Iran would take X% of nuclear material off the black market- but again they don't think that way. They don't see how they're being duped. And they deserve their fiery demise. RunDaddy I know you don't want to see this happen to our country, but honestly, what can we do now? We have no political capital and everyone is going to go on like this is the nineties. Until the next 9/11 so long. The Liberals think everything is fine.

We needed to attack Iran 2 years ago. And we need to tell Taiwan its free, and if the Chinese don't like, put 10 nukes in them. All of you will realize soon enough this is the end result. Waiting just allows them to destroy more of us.

Peace is dead. It died when 6.5 Billion people were born into a world that can only support 2 Billion at most.

sorry everyone. Jesus won't save you either. You're all going to hell. This is exactly what the Bible predicted- That when they had to, Babylon couldn't save herself.

Masons out there, you know very well of what I speak. The two pillars are being torn asunder by these liberals. Since we allowed this, we too will fall. One topples the Other.

the deserving suffer the fate as the non-deserving. I hate being tied to some of these people......

Thank god for women.

Shut up peeps. You are boring, arrogant, pointless, and not funny all at the same time. I wish someone would stick a nuke up your silly, demented, stupid ass.

we're being led to ruin...

these liberals who are just pawns for the Russian and Chinese governments are DESTROYING this country. THERE IS NOTHING LEFT.

China will take out our grids and collapse the dollar. Russia will keep our military on high alert. Islamic fascists will cut off oil and nuke us. We will try to fight, only to be ruined by the agents in this country, liberals who think peace is the answer.

two Russian agents in waiting were nabbed today:

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/online_extras/The_Bonnie_and_Clyde__of_scam_artists.html

THANK GOD.

how many more infect the media? how many caused the subprime crisis to get far worse. REFCO? remember that? Russian Mob.

They are DESTROYING US and these morons sit here and yap about running, and GOD, and peace and love. We won't be men when we need to be. We will be idle and watch it happen, then panic like animals. for we are no better.

I'm gotta go run now, this stuff is unbelievable to me how you people are so stupid as too the truth.

peeps sucks wrote:

Shut up peeps. You are boring, arrogant, pointless, and not funny all at the same time. I wish someone would stick a nuke up your silly, demented, stupid ass.

Hate me all you want. I love you too. You're as doomed as me. =)

but promise me something- when the end comes, close your eyes and know I was right. In that last moment of life in some foreign country after you get drafted, in the blast, the encroaching wave, the slow agonizing pain of flu in your chest,

YOU PROMISE ME, That you will not curse me in those last moments. You think about the brightness of God/Humanity/Universe and hopefully there is something better in the future for us all.

I love peeps wrote:

but promise me something- when the end comes, close your eyes and know I was right. In that last moment of life in some foreign country after you get drafted, in the blast, the encroaching wave, the slow agonizing pain of flu in your chest,

It's kind of ironic that all the ways you mention s/he could die are what libs are trying to prevent: no drafts, no global warming, health care for all. Just an observation.

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It's kind of ironic that all the ways you mention s/he could die are what libs are trying to prevent: no drafts, no global warming, health care for all. Just an observation.

Its kinda funny how you think that people who do wrong should be allowed to get away with it.

Life is costly and dear. Want to keep living? Start fighting. But do so for the right reasons.