"Secondly, you say that it's unfair to put Georgia in the title game because they didn't play in the conference championship game. That's funny, because OSU didn't play in a conference champsionship game either, now did they"
You have to be smarter than that Pseudo Psagarin!!
Osu would have played in the game if there was one.
rippy cripple wrote:
Osu would have played in the game if there was one.
Gee, no shit Sherlock. And how easy it is for you to assert that now isn't it? "If there was one" is the operative phrase though, that's for sure. Ironic.
Sagarin wrote:
First of all, I wholeheartedly agreed that WVU had no business being ranked where they were, and I might have been the only one more vociferous about it than even you. Secondly, Mizzou was beaten, plain and simple, but OU was the only team that could contain them this year and OU WAS my preseason pick (I was a year early since they have nothing but freshman at key positions, BUT they will definitely be my pick next year, as they are one of the very best RIGHT NOW). Doesn't mean Missouri was a fraud at all. Missouri hung 37 on Illinois and had a commanding lead until Chase Daniel (sustained a concussion in that game).
Secondly, you say that it's unfair to put Georgia in the title game because they didn't play in the conference championship game. That's funny, because OSU didn't play in a conference champsionship game either, now did they? KU does not deserve anything. They were beaten soundly a mere two weeks ago by Mizzou. They do not also get rewarded for not playing a conference championship game. Now, you are crediting the extra SEC conference championship game for helping a team to get in two years in a row, which is hypocritical. It cuts both ways. An extra conference championship game is what prevented Mizzou from getting in.
LSU does deserve to be in. They have two triple OT losses in conference, that, as Les Miles stated accurately, would have been ties in the old days, and LSU would have been in anyway. As he put it, LSU was undefeated in regulation time. Now, I do agree that everyone needs to shutup if OSU beats a presumed LSU in the conference championship. However, Flagpole, I really should go and dig up that email from about a week ago where you were ridiculing LSU fans, saying what a joke LSU was and how the SEC wasn't going to have a team in the championship game this year.
And now it looks like you're going to be eating some serious crow. Because, what if that AVERAGE LSU team beats down your Buckeyes as I think they will? What will that say about the Big Ten? I'll bet you that at the end of the year, the Sagarin rankings will be LSU, USC, Georgia (depends on whether or not Georgia is pitted against USC in the Rose Bowl) very similar to last year, and we will be left wanting for one more game (LSU-USC was SUPPOSED to be the matchup from day one). After all, OSU has probably done the least of any other team in terms of quality wins and playing a strong schedule to deserve a shot.
An interesting anecdote: Both OU and LSU are the only teams that are 2-0 against the top 10. OSU is one of only three teams in the top 10 that has yet to play anybody in the top 10. Everyone else in the top 10 has a losing record against the top 10. OU, LSU, and Georgia have the best records against the top 30.
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Both Ohio State and Kansas are in creampuff conferences and they lost to no-name opponents. Neither team should be in teh top 10.
No team in college football has an unblemished record. Either teams have lost to bad teams or they have almost lost to bad teams (Hawaii needed last minute scores to beat Washington, Nevada, and Lousiana Tech. They needed a last minute score just to go to overtime against Lousiana Tech. They went into OT against that team AND San Jose State....who?
No team is truely deserving of the championship game....which is why we need a playoff. They'll put OSU and LSU in the title game because that is what will sell the most tickets and TV revenue.
Alan
Sagarin wrote:
rippy cripple wrote:Osu would have played in the game if there was one.
Gee, no shit Sherlock. And how easy it is for you to assert that now isn't it? "If there was one" is the operative phrase though, that's for sure. Ironic.
rippy cripple, you are right!
Sagarin, the point is the Georgia didn't QUALIFY to play for their conference's championship game. Ohio State qualified to play in theirs -- it's just that the Big Ten doesn't have one.
And again, before you cry more about Missouri, if LSU makes it to the championship game, it's 100% because of the extra game they played -- just like it was for Florida last year. It's worked out well for the SEC. Just because your Big 12 team didn't make it is no reason to say it's bad.
You are joking wrote:
Both Ohio State and Kansas are in creampuff conferences and they lost to no-name opponents. Neither team should be in teh top 10.
Dude, you've GOT to be kidding. OSU POUNDED all of its opponents except for that lone loss by 7 points to Illnois, and you must not know much about football if you think Illinois is bad this year. They are VERY good, especially the last half of the season -- as HOT as any team out there.
OSU deserves its #1 spot.
Flagpole Willy wrote:
Sagarin, the point is the Georgia didn't QUALIFY to play for their conference's championship game. Ohio State qualified to play in theirs -- it's just that the Big Ten doesn't have one.
And again, before you cry more about Missouri, if LSU makes it to the championship game, it's 100% because of the extra game they played -- just like it was for Florida last year. It's worked out well for the SEC. Just because your Big 12 team didn't make it is no reason to say it's bad.
Yet another predictable, disingenuous response. Who's crying about Missouri? I already said they were soundly beaten by quite possibly the best team in the nation, the only team that has actually beaten them, but, of course, we'll never know, because we don't have a playoff. And again, who is saying the conference championship game is BAD, besides you of course, because, in your words, "it enabled an SEC team to vault into the championship two years in a row." I never said it was bad, only unfair that some conferences play it and some don't.
osu played easy teams. of course they should have pounded them. osu doesn't deserve a #1 or #2 ranking. the bcs gave it to them for since tv wants them. in reality usc shluld be in the bcs champs game.
One word for you USC f***heads, STANFORD! No one who loses to Stanford should be allowed in the BCS title game, sorry.
haha, YO wrote:
One word for you USC f***heads, STANFORD! No one who loses to Stanford should be allowed in the BCS title game, sorry.
The rule should be anyone who loses to stanford should not be allowed to play in the title game for at least 3 years.
falsehoods wrote:
osu played easy teams. of course they should have pounded them. osu doesn't deserve a #1 or #2 ranking. the bcs gave it to them for since tv wants them. in reality usc shluld be in the bcs champs game.
What's with this "since tv wants them" and "East Coast media" crap about OSU. Ohio and Big Ten fans don't dominate the minds and opinions of the BCS or the media. You make it sound like the Buckeyes play in New York City. There is no conspiracy to get them to the title game. If TV got to choose they would pick a team from Los Angeles like USC, but they don't.
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