DIII xc nationals coverage

Race day temp was high 30's, although it felt colder. There was about a 10mph wind, which didn't really affect racers that much because of all the people.

The ground itself was really hard.

On the womens' side at least, I think that it was just an incredibly strong year because if I remember correctly conditions in 2002 were similiar but AA that year was around 22:30.

Rockets wrote:

Why is everyone from Stevens Point always getting robbed? It must be tough to have such bad luck.

My apologies, I was not aware of the rampant bad luck you attribute the university with. I mentioned a single occasion where they had an AA finish locked up, but were DQ'ed due to a judge's decision that one of the runners impeded somebody else's path at one of the hand-offs. Granted I was not present, but from what I heard it was a questionable call, and since it cost 4 young runners a well deserved AA award, I think I was justified in saying they got robbed.

Even if it wasn't as questionable as portrayed, it would still be unlucky, as there was no ill-will nor intent to impede, and just happened to be how the events unfolded.

Do tell about these other acts of pilfering Stevens Point has been besieged with!

I actually have video footage of that race...indoor nats 2003 if I'm not mistaken?

I just watched the tape, and the trip up looked pretty innocent from my angle. And by 'my angle', I mean 10 feet in front of my camera. Just a mix up at the feet in a lot of traffic.

I'd say they definitely got hosed.

bw wrote:

I actually have video footage of that race...indoor nats 2003 if I'm not mistaken?

I just watched the tape, and the trip up looked pretty innocent from my angle. And by 'my angle', I mean 10 feet in front of my camera. Just a mix up at the feet in a lot of traffic.

I'd say they definitely got hosed.

Thank you for your support, BW, but no, I was not referring to 2003 at DePauw. Stevens Point actually was involved in a fall in that race though, but there were no disqualifications as a result. Unlucky there, but not a case of being robbed. The incident I'm referring to was just last year, 2007 indoor nationals.

I'm trying to think of other times when we got robbed. All I'm coming up with is just being unlucky or simply performing bad. Maybe the poser meant in other sports, or an actual crime wave in the city of Stevens Point, not too clear at this point thought.

miles of trials wrote:

south showed they truly maybe deserve 2 teams out.

The south showed they deserve zero team and zero individual qualifiers.

big boy wrote:

miles of trials wrote:

south showed they truly maybe deserve 2 teams out.

The south showed they deserve zero team and zero individual qualifiers.

I'm from the south and would kick both your two asses right now, literally and in XC. BTW, how many people not from the south did the top south guys beat? oh that's right, only around 200.

Shut the f*** up you bitch. Come up to the midwest I will kick your f***ing ass all over town. Talk shit because you know for a fact that the south f***ed it up again and are only proving to the whole nation that they should have to pay their own god damn way into nationals. f***ing pussy. I can't beleive you are acting like they did well. They didn't, just f***ing admit it. God I am so sick of you suckers ignoring the truth just to defend your so called right to be at the national meet. National meet should = the best teams in the nation. NOT the best teams in the nation minus 3 only to include 3 really shitty ones. Go run your 15:50 5k now and shut up cuz you clowns won't be showin up at nationals in track.

haha wow, you are pretty bitter huh? your team get left out? or you just couldn't cut the top 7, chief? no seriously, i was just kidding, take it easy dude. don't worry, i won't be breaking 15:50 anytime soon (in fact my pr doesn't start with 15, or even 16 for that matter--or 17!! i bet that really gets to you huh?). if nothing else, south people are a lot more chill than you. actually, so are pretty much all d3 runners i know, although if they also had sand in the you know what i guess anyone could be as ornery as you.

The NCAA strives for regional representation in addition to getting the best athletes out there, so the South will always have representatives. Instead of dragging them down, why not just bring yourself up and qualify in your own region? Or, if it so easy, transfer to a South Region school.

Does your coach still wear the pastel Adidas suede shoes? That may be the reason you guys get hosed all the time.

Now go out and measure some bark or tag a turtle. That is why you are there.

not a sell out wrote:

This is just ridiculously good pack running by UW-L. I don't think I've ever seen five guys come across the line like this. And they weren't even close to one another at any of the intermediate splits.

71 2 682 Dan Thour Uw La Crosse 25:39 5:10

72 3 679 Connor Lonning Uw La Crosse 25:39 5:10

73 4 680 Paul Moran Uw La Crosse 25:40 5:10

74 5 683 Dallas Vincent Uw La Crosse 25:40 5:10

75 6 675 Kyle Coghlan Uw La Crosse 25:41 5:10

I don't see the advantage of this type of pack finish. Especially if they didn't run near each other during the race. Wouldn't the advantage of pack running be that this group runs together through 4 miles, pulling each other along, and then it's every man for himself to finish as high as possible? To have everyone meet at the finish seems coincidental at best. I'm not criticizing how they ran the race. I just don't see the advantage of the blanket finish.

I was wondering if anyone had the starting box assignments, or knew of a link to them? I heard some small talk by several coaches that something may not have been cool with how the starting line was calculated.

I will guarentee that the start line was fair for everyone. heck it is a 200 meter straightaway. ultimately, peoplemay get stuck behind someone, but go out harder then. the course is wider than your typical nats meet so i dont think there is any problem with an unfair startline. that is just retarded.

Mr. Awesome wrote:

Shut the f*** up you bitch. Come up to the midwest I will kick your f***ing ass all over town. Talk shit because you know for a fact that the south f***ed it up again and are only proving to the whole nation that they should have to pay their own god damn way into nationals. f***ing pussy. I can't beleive you are acting like they did well. They didn't, just f***ing admit it. God I am so sick of you suckers ignoring the truth just to defend your so called right to be at the national meet. National meet should = the best teams in the nation. NOT the best teams in the nation minus 3 only to include 3 really shitty ones. Go run your 15:50 5k now and shut up cuz you clowns won't be showin up at nationals in track.

Your sportsmanship leaves something to be desired. It's true that the teams from the south had a poor showing at nationals, contrary to predictions by me and others. But they can work hard and get better. On the otherhand, you, Mr. Awesome, will always be a jerk.

kartelite wrote:

big boy wrote:

The south showed they deserve zero team and zero individual qualifiers.

I'm from the south and would kick both your two asses right now, literally and in XC. BTW, how many people not from the south did the top south guys beat? oh that's right, only around 200.

My sportsmanship? What the hell are you talking about, Kartelite originally did his little schpeal about how he would kick people's asses literally and in XC? So why can't I respond in kind? Am I wrong or did the South teams dominate the lower half of that National meet this year much like years past? Kartelite you also responded to me by saying that you won't be breaking 15:50 this year and your PR doesn't start with a 15, 16 or 17. So by your own proclamations you outed yourself as someone who runs around an 18 minute 5k or slower. And if your PR starts with a 14 or 13 then you would be breaking 15:50. Moron. I can run fast too pal whether I am faster than you remains to be seen but you appear to be a member of D3 running so I don't think you are a world beater yet pal.

(B)anderson, emory,(G)Alleghany, blew!!

Anderson ran out of their minds at regionals to even make it to this meet, I'm sure they were just happy to be there. They did have Hudson get 11th which is pretty damn good.

did it ever occur to you that they didnt paln on doing this?

How did you do?