Trials Weather

"I've got news for you stupid. Nobody is going to watch it in NY either. The only people out there will be family and hard core runners watching purely for love.

NY, right. For months we've heard all the bullshit bloviating about having the trials in the big media capital and it will get the same coverage and turnout that Munster Indiana would."

What exactly is your point? What are you trying to get across? Are you saying we shouldn't talk about it? That we should have it in Munster Indiana?

Whatever your point is you're a clown. If you think Munster Indiana would yeild the same turnout you should really pull your head out of your ass. That's just moronic.

I know a good ammount of people (myself included) who are driving five hours to go watch it. I'm driving down tonight with a car full of people. Yea it may have been a bit overhyped, but there will still be a good ammount of people going to watch. At least alot more than Indiana. It's really hard to take you seriously.

But maybe you're right, and we should just hate on it like you. That's great for the sport.

Is it just me or does anyone feel that the track qualification standards for 5000m and 10,000m went for naught? Seriously, did only 6 guys take advantage of this qualifying process? Sort've defeated the purpose of the standard, however, I am glad that Rohatinsky is getting a shot, as is Carney, as they do throw some interest and surprise to the mix.

However, can USATF justify the standards and not have more running because of it? More for an argument for a 20K-Half Marathon standard, as I am sure many, many more guys would take advantage of that standard. The only negative is that the USATF would probably create some ungodly standard like 1:04:00 instead of the reasonable 1:07:30.

Oh well, here's to the future of USATF Qualifying Standards!

gottitt wrote:

What exactly is your point? What are you trying to get across? Are you saying we shouldn't talk about it? That we should have it in Munster Indiana?

Whatever your point is you're a clown. If you think Munster Indiana would yeild the same turnout you should really pull your head out of your ass. That's just moronic.

I know a good ammount of people (myself included) who are driving five hours to go watch it. I'm driving down tonight with a car full of people. Yea it may have been a bit overhyped, but there will still be a good ammount of people going to watch. At least alot more than Indiana. It's really hard to take you seriously.

But maybe you're right, and we should just hate on it like you. That's great for the sport.

You know a good "amount" of people, yourself included who will be there? WOW, THAT'S 200,000 RIGHT THERE!

Munster Indiana would get a better turnout.

Indiana is like a days drive from about 85% of the country. Rooms don't cost $500 a night either.

You could put the trials out in a field in Munster and tens of thousands of runners from across the country would show up because they could. That won't happen in NY. The "fans" in NY will be people who just happened to be in the park in the AM anyway. With their annoying little dogs.

weather man.. wrote:

This is good prep for Beijing, at least we will have a team that can run well in cold inclement weather, just like the conditions they will face in Beijing.

Post of the day. I've said it before, they should have run this thing to determine who can best perform in a polluted cesspit of a city. New York fits the cesspit part, but lacks the air pollution. These trials should have been held in Mexico City in August. After each runner chain smoked a pack of unfiltered Lucky Strikes.

I just heard the weather report on the radio. They said how nasty and windy and rainy it will be tomorrow morning, but that the good news is that there will be more tranquil weather on Sunday for the marathon. Thus confirming that everyone here knows the NYC Marathon is on Sunday, and pretty much nobody is aware of the Trials on Saturday.

You can see the current detailed forecast for Central Park at the NOAA web site:

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?site=OKX&llon=-74.152083&rlon=-73.767083&tlat=40.985417&blat=40.600417&smap=1&mp=0&map.x=123&map.y=128&FcstType=graphical

They are predicting sustained winds of 30 mph or more from 7 am to 2 pm tomorrow, with gusts as high as 47 mph. It really is amazingly bad luck that the high winds will move through the area at exactly the time the race is being run.

I agree with the poster above who predicted that the pace will likely be slow, with a large pack sticking together until the final turn south between miles 23 and 24. (Although somebody will probably try to break up the field at least a bit on the previous turn at mile 18.)

The probability of rain is never greater than 33%, though.

I think we could have solved all of these problems if we would have just held the Mens trials in conjunction with the Indianapolis marathon that is being run this weekend. With the 20k+ expected and the millions of dollars invested in it they would have put on a great event.what.

Lapel, IN wrote:

Munster Indiana would get a better turnout.

Indiana is like a days drive from about 85% of the country. Rooms don't cost $500 a night either.

You could put the trials out in a field in Munster and tens of thousands of runners from across the country would show up because they could. That won't happen in NY. The "fans" in NY will be people who just happened to be in the park in the AM anyway. With their annoying little dogs.

Well first of all, even if only runners are going, I'm sure there are a lot more runners in the New York area than just about anywhere else in the country, simply because there are more people than anywhere else. I'm really frustrated at the lack of an attempt to market this thing very seriously. Usually whatever network is covering the Olympics tries to cover the stuff that leads up to it to get people hyped up. We all know America is pretty indifferent to running, but the Olympics are something everybody understands, and I don't think it would be very hard to get people into this, if they had made a little more effort. The race isn't even going to be on TV live! The NYC marathon is always televised in the area, I've watched it the last few years. Can they really generate interest in that, but not the freaking Olympics??

sounds just like the weather report for this years boston marathon, except not as bad...

if it's 30 MPH winds, no one will break 2:15:00.

I'm in the NYC area, and it looks like it is getting breezy outside. Not looking good for tomorrow morning.

sure.

I'm worried that Culpepper and Abdi may become airborn projectiles that impale spectators.

???????? wrote:

You know a good "amount" of people, yourself included who will be there? WOW, THAT'S 200,000 RIGHT THERE!

If I may be so cliche, let's do the math...

- There are 40K + people set to run the marathon on Sunday.

- Those 40K will have some volume of people coming to watch them on Sunday

- Many (I'm guessing here of course) will be staying in town for their race

- The Olympic Trials Marathon is being bundled with the NYC Marathon in terms of marketing

- Loads of NYC Marathoners will want to attend every possible NYC Marathon-related function they can get in to

- A mere 50% of the above sample of people will provide over 30K spectators for the Trials (are NYC Marathon participants entitled to attend the Trials without a separate ticket?)

- Now add in those who have already bought tickets and we have quite a crowd

I think someone unexpected will pull off a major upset in these conditions!

The weather isn't going to be as bad as predicted. Quit spazing out p uh c eeees

Ol Grumpus wrote:

They are predicting sustained winds of 30 mph or more from 7 am to 2 pm tomorrow, with gusts as high as 47 mph.

OK, let's try this scenario:

- The wind is basically blowing from one direction

- If the sustained winds of 30 blow into the marathoners and

- The gusts of 47 blow with the marathoners

- There is a net tailwind of 17 mph

- I'm thinking 1:59 if Sell can draft into the wind and take off with the wind

- Provided a fellow Hansonian has the sack to take over each time into the wind until the final lap.

The weather is a setback, but it will still be a big success. There will be a ton of spectators with all of the Sunday Marathoners in town and all the local runners in the area. The park tends to be pretty well protected from the wind. It will smack them in places but it won't be for long stretches with all the curves, ups and downs, and areas where buildings and trees buffet you. The temperature is going to be good - which is a much bigger factor. 18 of us from my local running club (one of dozens in NYC area) are heading down at 5:30 to volunteer along the course. I expect to see a huge crowd of enthusiastic spectators.