The word not kept, broken promises. Things fall apart.

um no wrote:

There is mounds of evidence pointing to the fact that the evidence of WMDs was poor at best. Downing Street Memo, etc.

So what? Just because it was poor evidence doesn't mean he didn't think they were there. I didn't say the man was rational, just that he thought there were WMD's in Iraq. Even if he let Cheeny and Powell lie to him, hey thats his fault. Doesn't change the fact he thought they were there.

dispensation is a theological term connoting spiritual "eras" under which differing covenants govern mans relationship with G-d.

is that what you meant?

He wanted to use a big word with a lot of syllables that sounded intelligent and picked the wrong one.

Nevermind. Continue the discussion.

runfree wrote:

The house and senate was dominated by republicans. both houses approved 100% of he white house agenda and the white house did not issue one veto....the bush administration oversaw the biggest increase in the federal budget, increase in the deficit ever recorded, and led us into this boondogle in iraq...get a clue man....blaming congress is bullshit...are you going to donate to the iraq veterans for iraqi war (much like swiftboat veterans) and get them to blame the democrat led house and senate for this problem in 2008.....INSTEAD OF BUSH AND REPUBLICANS...

You're delusional, the republicans did not have a true majority in Congress... go ask a History teacher or professor what a true majority requires in the Senate...

Well wrote:

Someone could have fillibustered in the Senate but there would have been a movement for Closure which would have passed. (That might be fourth grade knowledge for you, I apologize if you havent made it there yet.) It was Congress that sent your boys, my friends, to Iraq

It is CLOTURE, you ass.

Also, there has been no declaration of war from Congress, that was our Pres who sent the troops. I believe your to stupid to realize that war has only been declared 5 times by Congress, the rest, including this one, is a police action. You really don't know gov't, do you????

GO Learn how to read, because I said nothing about Congress signing a declaration of war... but Congress did pass bills that required aggressive action to be taken against Iraq, they approved the funding, and without planning the course of action, the American public asked for a conflict in Iraq Congress gave it to them... Iraq techincal (and physically) never was war, but the point is the President is responsible for the executive branch, which has done a good job over the past 8 years, Congress is the bastard that's sent this nation to war in attempt at the John Kerry special, "screw moral principles, what do the polls say..." So your gripe is not with Bush it's with the Congressmen YOU elected, hopefully when I'm the "old man" and it's your kids I'll be a little more merciful, and elect Congressmen with principles instead of the screwball leeches with no backbone YOU put there...

Anyone surprized by the developments of this administration is just plain ignorant. Anyone who did not except such ineptness never paid attention. So many people hid their heads in the sand to the truth about Bush's past and his inept governing of Texas.

Someone who predicted Bush's victory in 2000 said on the night before the election, "Individually, we are the most intelligent nation on earth, collectively, we are the most stupid, that is why Bush will win." I hoped to God he was wrong, he was not and now we are in trouble.

NativeSon wrote:

skinny runner dude wrote:

Of course thats also assuming you believe terrorist were responsible for 9/11.

I am not a conspiracy theorist. I believe that Al Qaeda knocked down the towers.

When Bush took another route after 9/11, e.g. invading Iraq, what was his thinking?

I ask this because I believe that Iraq in my view is the genesis of all his mess.

Everyone forgets the way our nation was the few months after 9/11. Almost everyone wanted revenge, and if Bush hadn't done something Dems would be blaming him for that. Iraq was a HQ for terrorists, so in attacking Iraq Bush not only gave Americans the revenge they wanted (at the time, but have since forgotten they wanted it), and he also took out one of the worlds worst dictators. Looking back its easy to say "what was he thinking," but if you remember the amount of hate towards terrorists the citizens of the US had at that time, its easy to understand what he was thinking