Oh No - Downtown Anahiem 5K is short

My 1991 toyota tercel measured it at 2.98 and is far more accurate than google earth.

Bartolo Colon wrote:

My 1991 toyota tercel measured it at 2.98 and is far more accurate than google earth.

no.

Oh yea, Google Earth is much more accurate than a Jones Counter.

Alan

Hard to beat the Jones Counter, for sure.

But it has to be used properly, and there's skill involved, too. Put a novice or careless measurer on a bike with a Jones Counter and you get a bad course.

Then there's the issues of whether the start and the finish were properly positioned.

The OP's estimate would be well over 400' short.

So, OP, the first thing to do would be to get a copy of the certification map (assuming that the course is certified...if not, all bets are off).

Use this link to get the map for the Downtown Anaheim 5k

http://www.usatf.org/events/courses/search/searchResults.asp?courseID=&distance=5&distanceUnits=km&distanceComparison=%3D&city=anaheim&state=CA&courseName=&courseStatus=A&courseType=R&drop=&dropComparison=&separation=&separationComparison=&certificationYear=&lastName=&queryType=basic&format=view&submit=Search

Go and check the start/finish ASAP (before whatever marks were made on raceday disappear).

Start/finish in the right place? You're wrong about the distance.

Not? Talk to the race director. You might be right.

If you're talking about the Anaheim Downtown Discovery 5km, I just measured it with GE based on the certification map and got 3.10 miles.

I'd take a look and make sure the start and finish described on the map are what was used in the race. Start should have been about 20 meters north of Oak, and finish about 30 meters east of Clementine.

http://www.usatf.org/events/courses/maps/showMap.asp?courseID=CA01045RS

dukerdog wrote:

If you're talking about the Anaheim Downtown Discovery 5km, I just measured it with GE based on the certification map and got 3.10 miles.

I'd take a look and make sure the start and finish described on the map are what was used in the race. Start should have been about 20 meters north of Oak, and finish about 30 meters east of Clementine.

Since I could not tell on Google earth exactly where the start/finish should be I put them at the next farthest out cross street guarenteeing that GE would measure long and the course still comes out short. Maybe I am using google wrong but how dang hard can it be. And, by the way, it is accurate. I set it to measure in "feet" and found two USATF calibration courses to be spot on.

For the other question - yes I am talking about the Downtown Anahiem Discovery 5K. Look at some of the top finishing times. Those guys are running 20-30 fast. Tyrus running 15:30's NO WAY. NOT TODAY!!!

Actually, I agree with the man.

Here is even more proof the dang thing is short. Use Google to measure a few football fields (set units to yards). I get just about 100.0 exactly. Then, measure the entire Center Street promenade in miles. You only get 0.10. Well, mile 3 is on the promenade and so is the finish. Course is short. Sucks to be yous.

CranEUM wrote:

Actually, I agree with the man.

Here is even more proof the dang thing is short. Use Google to measure a few football fields (set units to yards). I get just about 100.0 exactly. Then, measure the entire Center Street promenade in miles. You only get 0.10. Well, mile 3 is on the promenade and so is the finish. Course is short. Sucks to be yous.

You guys are all WRONG. The finish line is past Lemon street, almost to Clementine. Re-measure again and I think you will get 3.10 my friends.

out of curiosity, does anyone know how GoogleEarth or Gmap-pedometer.com determines the distance from A to B? Do they account for all the hills in between or is it just an arbitrary straight line? I seem to find that the hillier my course is, the shorter that google thinks it is...anyone else notice this?

Google Earth takes elevation into account only if you have the 'terrain' button checked (if you tilt down you can see hills).

Try this: mark a course with terrain on and then turn it off. You can see the yellow line rising and falling through the air.

i posted already but it did not go through. the race director talked to me after I won and he said the course was a bit longer than 5k. he said he wants to make the course faster and to tell my friends about the race. I think the splits were off the last mile' I came by 952 and gunned it hard and ran 1529. I put some distance on everyone else and I felt like I was not falling apart but oh well. And Tyrus was not in super shape three months ago when I won the lakewood 5k but he races alot so its not inconceivable that he shaves 12 seconds off a month when he is rounding into shape. anyway, who cares. just race and have fun

Did you look at the certification map? If you measure the course as described on the certification map you will not get 3.03 miles.

Doesn't mean a different start/finish location, or a whole different course for that matter, wasn't used on race day. But the race course as described in the certification map comes out very close to 3.1 miles with GE.

sdky wrote:

i posted already but it did not go through. the race director talked to me after I won and he said the course was a bit longer than 5k. he said he wants to make the course faster and to tell my friends about the race. I think the splits were off the last mile' I came by 952 and gunned it hard and ran 1529. I put some distance on everyone else and I felt like I was not falling apart but oh well. And Tyrus was not in super shape three months ago when I won the lakewood 5k but he races alot so its not inconceivable that he shaves 12 seconds off a month when he is rounding into shape. anyway, who cares. just race and have fun

OK, I am wrong. I did not set the endpoint correctly. After re-measuring I indeed get 3.10 miles. Wejo, please delete this thread.

Cheer up man! You're PR is not faux!

I wouldn't mess with Bartolo Colon, except for the fact his pitches frequently wind up in the left field bleachers.

does a 15:30 get you anything scolarship wise at a college in the US?