Edinboro program - how they train?

Listen, there is no reason for the Boro alums of yesteryear to respect the current Boro boys or the recent alums! The old guys were badasses who could hold their own with MANY DI programs in the country. That hasn't been the case in years! So hanging that old banner in their apartment was how they tried to act like big time studs when the old-timers were the ones who got it done out on the XC course.

My advice for the Boro boys of the current generation - work your asses off and earn your own damn banners. You can do with those whatever you want.

Look you guys are way off base. This isn't about tradition, lack of respect, banners, team or any of that. This about a grown man in his mid to late 30's acting completely inappropriate. Instead of being flattered, honored or even touched that the young bucks idolized him and his team he became jealous and envious. As a result he acted like a child. His posts on this board demonstrate that he still thinks someone owes him something. He should be apologizing to those guys for acting like a drunk jackass instead of demanding that someone apologize to him. Listen Platt, I am sure your a good guy and tradition is what makes Edinboro a special program. Just try to be a little bigger and admit that you may have overreacted and try to mend some bridges with the youngsters. Step up and be that guy that those kids looked up to.

Jealous and envious of what?

I have no idea, I am just telling you how he was perceived to be acting.

I have no idea who you are, BUT... mplatter is still a 4:30 miler & a 2:31 marathon guy @ what 41? The guy I think broke 29 back in the day for 10K & ran 23+ for 5er, better then you, I am sure..right? What I am trying to say is the guy can HAUL Ass better then most, plus he is proud, very cool. If I have learned anything this past week please lets all be positive. If you young bucks were cool you might learn something from Mr. Platt...u think?

boro xc wrote:

I have no idea, I am just telling you how he was perceived to be acting.

Christ just let it go. I don't care about my rep at the Boro, but you guys don't have to keep piling on.

I am not the one who blew this open in public. But, thanks guys! All of this so called tradition and history just flew out the window over one incident. You all have had my e-mail address for years and I left it here as well but you all decided to do it this way. Once again, Thanks!

I did what I felt was right. Watts should not have let that award get out of his possession. I was not upset with the guys that had it to any large degree. I told Watts that in the letter attached to the package.

And screw tradition, tradition had nothing to do with my success or my teams success. I am highly competitive and driven and would have been just as good if it was Edinboro's first team ever. I was succeeding at every sport I ever tried from the age of six.

The core group on that team just happened to be a group of special guys. Talented and hungry.

To the guys there, don't idolize anyone, you will only be let down. Find a role model and emulate the practices that made them successful athletes, but don't idolize anyone. Find your own passion and follow it with zeal. Let no one and no thing get in your way. Not alcohol, drugs, chicks or pressure, from alumni or peers. You don't need tradition, you need a good plan(Watts has one) and you need to wake up and believe in YOUR PLAN, YOUR GOALS and follow through,EVERYDAY. Create your own history. If you buy into that tradition shit, then add to it. Personally, I think it more of an obligation than tradition, you promised your teammates and coaches a great effort when you put on that uniform. It's your obligation to really want to be there and to give a complete effort.

And I am not a complete asshole. Of course I can see how the guys are proud to be a part of the Edinboro history, that is why I have never blasted the fact that you guys had the banner. But you all should be able to understand that maybe the alumni there had a different perspective.

Additionally, I am not the guy you see sloppy drunk, that is someone else I will not mention. When I am around the Boro I usually spend a lot of time with a group of the kids telling of my training and some old stories. I have always given back to your program in more ways than you all know.

I am 41 not mid 30's. I was three years older than a traditional student, I originally went to college as a wrestler and tore my ACL, it tooks a couple years to recuperate from that surgery. Edinboro was my second chance as an athlete and I was determined to make it work.

To Stiner, thanks for the props, but I am in sub 2:25 shape as I write this. My low point was a hideous showing at penn, but I refocused and am running better than ever. Easily sub 31 shape for 10,000. (Check out the auburn race results.)

And as written earlier by someone, yes, I am freakishly ugly. Not my fault, blame my parents.

mplatt wrote:

, but I refocused and am running better than ever. Easily sub 31 shape for 10,000.

clarification, that should read better than ever since I started training again in my late thirties.

just goin by ur last..marathon @ twin city. I have seen you run 4:30+ & hope to break 5 myself as a 41-42 guy this season, takes balls! Running well as a 40+ athlete is harder then as a 25+ guy for sure. Did yous-guys do much for Charlie McMullen?

&&& Fuck those guys, I wish you & malmo had a platform here on this or any board. I have to remind myself to be POSitive here & every place I post now. If you guys read this & have any mind about you mplatter is hard core... please ask he will teach.

Thanks Mike, Jzs (red dragon)

Amen Red Dragon.

I was informed from a friend (who spends way too much time on this message board) that the "life and times" of the Edinboro program was becoming a fast subject.

Ran for the boro circa 87' - 91' after the infamous 86'

team - great guys with larger than life personas. The only

one I really got along with was Platter. The other guys had a frat boy mentality - very off limits, too cool for their own shit. It created much amusement, and most importantly, gumption to beat them on race day. In retrospect, a place

that reminds me of The Twilight Zone: weird liquor licenses,

lake side cabins, bad beer and strange locals.

Platter & I both recieved no respect from Mr. Watts. Ironically enough, we were the two who trained prodicously

( 115 - 120 miles weekly)in relation to the 60 - 80 mi

week guys who ALWAYS GOT THEIR ASSES HANDED TO THEM ON THE BIG DAY. Lots of high profile high school guys who, besides Chris Rauber, never really lived up to Watt's expectations.

Good program for the self motivated athlete.A great place to train and build character. there is not much to do there besides run, study, run more, run more... As far as Platt

kicking "Skippy's" ass on the famous 2 mile loop ( it is not 2 miles - another Watts trademark, innacurate distances)

I guess a punch to the back is getting your "ass kicked "?

In fact ( sorry PLatter, but lets get the record straight here) Mike was a stand up guy and aplogized to me. Yes, I am the guy who received the "wipp'n"( ha). We actually became better friends after this scenario. Platter was tired

running 115 / Wk. We both got a bit competitive that day, enough said. Youth, Testosterone, Stress ( maybe not in that order).

Hope your doing well Platter. Heard about the sad news about Charlie - a class act indeed. As far as Platter being caught up in the past, where do you arive at such fiction young grass hopper? . I guess participating on a message board regarding the Ediboro program must make us all "caught up in the past", right?

Bad news Mensa, bad news! Some of the commentary on this message board is such a vampid crock. It is clearly evident

that the level of education and intellect in this country

is declining - rapidly.

Enough.

you guys shouldn't be airing your dirty laundry out for all to see. makes your program like weak and vulnerable.

Thanks Mr.Sipel.

I have always denied the ass-kicking story. It was more of a shove to get your attention and it turned into a spill. It was not a brawl and no punches thrown. You and I have long since reconciled the incident.

I always found it strange that that is the only story Watts had to tell about me.

Funny you should post, I was digging through some of my old stuff in the attic looking for pictures of Charlie and I came across a TnF Rankings page that I had clipped out. It had you in the US list in the 10,000 meters with a time of 29 something from your Boro days.

We did some nice training and racing in those days.

Isn't it hard to believe the present Boro team took this thread in this direction?

So much for tradition.

It really does'nt matter if you appear to be weak to your

opponent. In fact, better to use the art of deception and

strike, take them off guard when they least expect it.

As far as making Edinboro look bad, I think it is a little too late! it has held a notorious reputation for decades and

many despise them in the college running scene. I did not mean to "take an issue public". Just wanted to say hello and

put the record straight. That's all.

The best of luck in your life.

Frankly - I'm surprised more that one PSAC alum is computer literate enough to post on this board.

Agree.

Real Mensa candidates.

Listen,

Cut the crap. Two things you new young boyz need to know. We ran 30:30 in practice just because... and many of us ran low 29s and 14's gracefully cause we could.

With the exception of Rowe (who could run "with" us), you all use these times as a punch line.

Get a life. Platt was and is legit. Put some time into training instead of typing.

Rauber

Chewy wrote:

Agree.

Real Mensa candidates.

If only taling about this thread, then wouldn't that mostly be Edinboro guys posting?

Not sure if you care or not, but even now, after college, I look at the Edinboro program as a step above the rest. Even when I find out there is an Edinboro alumni running in a road race that I am running in, I get that old feeling of college race, with a fast boro guy next to me. I guess all I am saying is for anyone that respects what it takes to be a good, or great runner, then they would respect the edinboro program.

Who loves Ya...you hairy ballbag?

Wease

I know the IUP squad respected the hell out of the'Boro guys of the 80's. They trained hard, raced passionately, won often, enjoyed it always. For any current collegiate runner, what's not to want to emulate?

Rauber: Shaf told me he ran into you and Platt in the boro a few weeks back. Hope all is well with you up in NY.

See any pianos rollin' down the street lately?

Rogo

Get a life! You all sound like a bunch of children. I ran this and I ran that... 30 years ago! Most people after college get jobs, families, and move on to professional careers. You all sound like a bunch of Al Bundy wanabes. I bet your sitting on your couch right now with your old cross country uniform on. Kind of fits tight now doesn't it? LOSERS.