A good mile and steeple in Ohio Tonight

They really slowed up on lap 3 in the mile. I thought Rob looked like he was flat on the last lap and then he just exploded the last 150. See looked like he had the strength to go sub 4 but not the spring in his step to really hammer it home. If he could have stayed around 60 on lap 3 I think he would have gone sub 4. I would think in a fast race Myers could go 3:56ish right now. Olinger looked pissed after the steeple - perhaps because he led the entire race. All 4 guys in the top group looked really smooth the whole way though - even the last lap when they really cranked down the pace.

yeah the third lap of the mile was like 62. It was nice to see Myers about to come back and still break 4.

That steeple finish was pretty cool. I realize why Bodgen is tough to beat on the last lap.

There has been more interest in track and field in the paper here that I have seen in a long time. The new coach is really trying to get this meet back to where it once was. By the sounds of it, next year will be awesome.

I was there at the race... the crowd was awful. The only people in the stands were high school or college athletes that knew people in the race and parents. The mile was a great race though. Taylor Candella was the rabbit through about 950m. The first lap was around a 58 and there was a lead pack of Candella, Myers, Tom Morgan, Jeff See, and Pat Sovacool from Miami of Ohio. The third lap did kill them and Myers hit the gun at about 3:02. Myers 3:59, See 4:00.xx Morgan 4:02, Sovacool 4:03

how bout the freshman kid running 4.04, who is he? that's solid

Chad Balyo 4:04 mile

Jeff See (might RS?) at 4:00

Also getting Jake Edwards 4:11, Dan White 1:52 (jr), and 9:09 Brian Gallagher (more a miler) for next year as well. With Myers showing the way, my Buckeyes are making a comeback.

A better question is why did Gary make Russ Rogers a meet referee and honor him at a banquet?

Jeff See may bethe next Rob Myers, but Olinger isn't Crogan. It may be tough that he led the whole way, but he got left the last lap.

croghan not wrote:

Jeff See may bethe next Rob Myers, but Olinger isn't Crogan. It may be tough that he led the whole way, but he got left the last lap.

I don't think anyone said Olinger is the next Crogan. And I don't think an 8:36 opener is too bad. Let's see what Brian's kind of wheels Brian's got at USATF.

I think that might be Olinger's fastest opener ever and leading the entire way? Also wasn't around 8:36 the fastest he ran all of last year? Gary is know to have his boys ready come championship time. Not too many people are the next Crogan. He did run 8:09 ya know!

Croghan DOMINATED the US and was actually competitive on the world scene at major championships and meets.

Gary made a couple Olympic teams, World Championship teams, and a bunch of world cc teams.

Olinger is probably ahead of Gary already with his steeplechase pr (8:19) and how young he is (23 years old).

The rest of the guys in that race were running their 3rd or 4th race of the season.

Mark CROGHAN was also an incredibly efficient runner and hurdler which takes time to learn. Olinger will be fine and I believe you'll see him close to 8:10 this year. I'd love to see him training with other stud steeplers at some point.

mufafa wrote:

I'd love to see him training with other stud steeplers at some point.

He's been training with Dan Huling (4th @ USATF Outdoor) and Myers--not to mention coached by Gary. Olinger will be just fine. And, from what I've heard, he is in possibly the best shape of his life.

Sure didn't show it on Saturday. Hope to see him get down and run some real fast times this year.

Huling is definitely an up and coming talent, but I was thinking of being able to train with someone who has been sub 8:10 rather than someone whose PR is 8 seconds slower than Olinger's.

Also, I'm guessing that when it comes to specific prep work that a steepler and a miler's workouts become somewhat divergent.

But, I've been wrong several times before..

How much better of a group would you propose for Olinger? Where are all the sub-8:10 steeplers in America. Dan Lincoln in medical school is the only one. Instead, he trains where he ran 8:19 as a 21 year old, under direction of a 2-time Olympian alongside a #4 US-ranked steeplechaser and Rob Myers (one of the top 5 US milers). Olinger may not be Croghan, but Croghan is unarguable one of the 3 best American steeplers ever!

not to be picky but Huling was 3rd last year. Salberg was 4th. And he was not RANKED 4th either. Since he only ran a few steeples last year he ended up ranked 7th in track and field news.

Olinger was ranked 8th last year in the U.S. Get off his back. it was his first steeple of the year and look at what he did in 05 when he took his red shirt. Started around the same and ran 8:28 at USA's for fourth and then eveyone knows what happened next 8:19. It is not easy to run 8:19 all the time.

Like someone already said. the top three (Bodgen, Kandie, and Bruce) in the race have run one or two other steeples this year. They may have been just a bit sharper on the last lap

One last question how many times is Ben Bruce gona run 8:33?

Exactly. How many American steeplers open up faster than 8:35? Leave the dude alone.

Who says the group has to be composed of Americans??