Mens 5K...HAHA I got it first.

and they're off...............the warhurst haters have regained the lead over the wetmore hating bunch and stanford hating bunch. stan/wet are tied for 2nd

should be a tite one to the finish!!!

I AGREE 3 CENTS. THE GOOFY SLOW LOOSERS ARE OUT LETS SEE WHO GETS BASHED THE MOST. WHO' KEEPING SCORE. GET OFF THEIR NUTS. THEY ARE ALL GOOD COACHES AND ATHELETE'S WHO HAVE AT LEAST DONE SOMETHING PRAISEWORTHY WITH THEIR CAREER'S SO FAR. UNLESS YOU WANT TO TAKE UP THE MANTLE AND REPRESENT THE US SHUT THE F@CK UP BIIIOOOOOTTTTTCH.

every body,hates everybody,can't we all just get along.

All programs are doing their best.You dont think shit stinks in Kenya!!!!!

How bout Brannen has good improvement in XC, breaks school record in winning indoor nationals. Kevin sullivan runs strong outdoor season going 334 so far i believe and isnt done yet, Willis goes 336 in europe. Webb doesnt do any better after leaving warhurst even though he wsnt injured this year like last.

Is there an echo?

Official Results - 3000 METRES - Men - Final

World Youth Games

Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 18:35

Pos Bib Athlete Country Mark

1 327 Choge Augustine Kiprono KEN 7:52.53 <----16.5yrs old

2 177 Bekele Tariku ETH 7:54.71 (PB)

3 179 Girma Shimelis ETH 7:55.12 (PB)

4 335 Tarus William Kimeli KEN 7:56.30 (PB)

5 503 El Radi Ahmed SUD 7:58.42 (PB)

6 610 Nduwingoma Jean Claude BDI 8:01.06

7 586 Rupp Galen USA 8:10.42 (PB)

Mens 5K Yesterday in Europe

Tadesse Zersenay ERI 13:11.07

2 Belz Christian SUI 13:12.16

3 Kemboi Nicholas KEN 13:14.41

4 Kilel David KEN 13:17.45

5 Lombard Cathal IRL 13:19.22

6 Choge Augustine Kiprono KEN 13:20.08<-----Unbelieveable!!

7 Mitei Enock KEN 13:20.91

8 Kennedy Bob USA 13:21.85

9 Mourhit Hassan MAR 13:21.97

10 Abdirahman Abdihakem USA 13:23.25

11 Torres Jorge USA 13:24.17

12 Iwasa Toshihiro JPN 13:26.78

13 Jensen Dennis DEN 13:26.87

14 Korir Philipp KEN 13:30.93

15 Mottram Craig AUS 13:32.42

16 Bakken Marius NOR 13:35.96

17 Chékhémani Rachid FRA 13:37.10

18 Fitschen Jan GER 13:41.82

19 Nakamura Yuki JPN 13:44.98

20 Riley Jonathon USA 13:47.28

21 Goucher Adam USA 13:49.57

BK answered all of us who asked questions...

okay could someone explain in simple terms the scenerio that would put bob kennedy on the WC team? thanks.

BK goes to Worlds if he gets the A standard and someone else from the US also gets the A standard. That's it.

I agree that no American really has a shot at Bob Kennedy's 12:58.21 yet (that, by the way, is the all-time non-African non-druggie record.) Consider that Alistair Cragg ran a last 1600m of 4:09 in winning NCAAs (off a pretty slow pace) - how many of you found that impressive? Running at that pace for the whole 5000m would barely break Kennedy's record - I hope you now understand just how fast 12:58.21 is.But:

ttc wrote:

Torres and Ritz will...have to fight hard just to run their 1500m faster than BK's 3000m PR pace.

They aren't THAT slow. Kennedy's PR at 3000m is what, 7:30? That's a 3:45 1500m...Torres had a 3:42 last week that he was using as a tune-up for the recent 5000 in which he got 13:24, and Ritz's PR is about the same.

Nonetheless, until one of the top Americans breaks 13:10 again, they will remain where they are: NOWHERE on the world level. Only when that happens can we even talk about anyone breaking 12:58.21.

Anyone know this Irishman: Cathal Lombard? He beat BK and Torres in 13:19. From the sounds of this article, he had only run in the high 13:50's previous to this season.

http://www.irishrunner.com/cathal5k03.html

I was also wondering about Lombard so I looked up his info on tilastopaja.com. He ran 13:39 and 28:05 this season but nothing like his 13:19.

Also, in that race Craig Mottram ran his first race of the season and ran 13:32 off 6 weeks of training. He got a stress fracture during the Australian outdoor season in November/December and has been in the pool since. Not a bad performance. Look forward to seeing what he can do at world champs with a few more weeks of running under his belt.

Ohhh you americans are so stupid...

If you think the world junior records are set by juniors you are fooled...

In Kenya/Eldoret the runners go to the city of Kisumu, some 2-3 hours from Eldoret, pays about 20§ and get a passport with an age much younger than they in reality are...

Then they are going to the world juniors 22+ years old...

The same happens in Morocco... druggie Mouhrit is close to 40 years old, kept alive with EPO, growth hormons etc...

age does'nt matter,still they can run fast.pliz lets count ourselfs as athletes with no age .

Boston wrote:

Anyone know this Irishman: Cathal Lombard? He beat BK and Torres in 13:19. From the sounds of this article, he had only run in the high 13:50's previous to this season.

http://www.irishrunner.com/cathal5k03.html

Heh heh heh

All u f***ing Americans talk about is age,age,age. f*** even if they are 21 or 40 just check how many kenyans there are with the A standard and they are not heading to worlds. so f*** age when u guys cry about how old people are it tell us that u guys a pussies. big fat lazy smelly ones, typical american puss

Thats funny patriot. You forgot to mention:

1. Broe beating everyones favorites at the national meet

2. Brannen winning indoor nats and 3 at his nation champs

3. Sullivan running 3:34 and winning his national meet

4. Willis running 3:36 as a freshman and winning everything along the way

I imagine that you are either and athlete that did not succeed in the program, another coach who thought his 9:30 kid should have gotten a full ride or an eastern or state athlete just taking pot shots at the program. So you get on the boards and find anything you can to bash Ron and the program with,because you know some other f***ing jackass will listen to the bullshit that comes out of your mouth. In fact, if you have such a problem with Ron why dont you give him a call and get it off you chest. I am sure that he would love to hear all of your complaints and suggestions.