FOR ALL YOU MILAGE FREAKS IN HIGH SCHOOL...

uh, maybe in order to compete with someone as talented as scott clearly was, the other guys had to actually TRAIN harder to keep up.

it's always easy for someone (read a sports psychology text, most runners of his ability do this) to downplay the work they do, giving them a never-ending sense of potential.

last i checked, there are plenty of ways to be good in h.s., and the mileage you run is only one of a myriad reasons why kids don't improve in college. (can you say free beer and coeds, anyone?)

get real, and stop oversimplifying.

Steve Scott wasnt a really great high school runner. He only got good in college when he started running 100+ miles per week. You can try to throw out "trick examples" of non high mileage runners if you want, but it's been just as many runners have proved that mileage works. Jim Ryun ran over 100 miles per week in high school and he set 3 world records when he got out of high school.

jim ryun also retired when he was like 24 years old. maybe if he wasn't being slave-driven by that coach of his, he would have had a longer career instead of getting burnt out so young.

wasn't that good? he ran 1:51 in high school if i'm not mistaken

You ever talk to Steve Scott?

If you did, he'd tell you how the biggest problem with incoming college freshmen is that 99% have such low lifetime volumes.

Remember, Steve's senior year was only his 2nd year of running -- how much mileage could he have done?

Additionally, if you check out Run With the Best, which advocated the steady progression of volume for high school athletes, Steve's picutes are all through the book, his go-to-guy co-wrote the thing, and he put his name on the back fully endorsing the book and its principles, which he applies to his own athletes today.

going to the state meet in HS I was ask what kind of mileage I do weekly I was like huh? running as fast as I ran they could believe I didn't do a bunch of miles.

I think it depends on how you run the mileage rather than how many you actually do. If you are pounding everyday and doing alot of hard workouts combined with high mileage. However, I think if you are doing alot of easy miles, I dont think it will hurt you.

last i checked, ryun was not "slave-driven," he was intenstly motivated by none other than...HIMSELF.

was his coach there every morning to wake him up for his morning 10-miler? nope.

and as far as his career goes, the serious disappointment in munich certainly got to him, and was a large reason behind his premature retirement.

give me a break man...you ever see the documentary on ryun??? his coach did slave drive him. every time ryun's body rejected all the stress, his coach would say some shit like "i guess you dont wanna break four minutes" and would make him do 40x400 with weights during the recovery. he was BURNT OUT he hated the sport, and he quit the sport at an early age. turned to politics...there was serious animosity between him and his coach...just watch the damn video.

Now I know why Scott is turning out so many studs with you down in San Diego and why he remains at that running hotbead Cal State San Marcos.

You'd be suprised.

i wish gerry lingren could emerge from obscurity and comment on this board about his career after all those miles in high school.

I am surprised that after 7 years at the helm Scott hasn't produced a MD runner (either sex) that approaches qualifying for any national meets.

Great guy, but by no means a coaching guru.

what does this have to do with steve scott's quote at the top of this page?

Program been around since fall 1999.

Scott has done well with the limited gene pool he has been given. Not perfect, but much better than most.

Doesn't he get to recruit his own gene pool, like all other coaches?

Whatever happened to the Calif. State 1600 champ that was part of his gene pool?

Decided to be an asshole, and was removed from the team.

Steve Scott was wayyyy better than okay in HS..go look at his marks..at least before spitting that out..

I have watched the damn video. I own it. Ryun's coach didn't burn him out. His coach didn't force him to do that crap. He was more motivated than his coach ever was. It was just that he had been at the top of the mountain almost as a high-schooler. He'd had several Olympic disappointments and didn't want to kill himself for four more years.