The dew point in Mombasa today is 77 degrees

I'm staying in the Voyager Hotel where it should be cool with no mosquitos. Not bringing any cotton except cotton socks and cotton visor. Don't eat any fresh salads, uncooked veggys. Don't drink tap water. Don't swallow the water when brushing your teeth, or better yet, use bottled water.

try training in Singapore wimps! we have 90% humidity, 85 F after sundown temp 365 days a week. lots of asphalt and concrete trails and fresh car exhausts for company...

Our national 5000m mens record is 14:58 set in the 90's.

so what are you trying to say?

Everybody will be running the same race. Right now in Mombasa:

HKMO 201200Z 09017KT 9999 SCT028TCU FEW029CB BKN280 31/24 Q1009 NOSIG

About 88/75 for you Fahrenheit types, with a nice easterly breeze. Sounds like summer in Washington, DC!

malmo gets it. If you want to know how bad the conditions will be, it's all about dew point. Anything over 70 is bad, 77 is hellish.

To a runner used to running in South Florida in the summer, an early morning run in Las Vegas even with temps well in the 90s will feel a lot more comfortable.

A friend went to the Kenya coast about 25 years ago and her comment about the heat/humidity has always stuck in my mind. "Kenya or Hell-pick Hell it's cooler!!"

Someone could insert the story about Craig Virgin in Austin in 1974 NCAA meet.

6 miles. He and others trailed John Ngeno (I believe) when Virgin started spinting a lap early. I don't think he finished. I know it was run at night, but the humidity was horrendous and times appropriately slow.

When I was at Ole Miss we routinely ran in very high dew point conditions (i.e. high humity and temp). If you are young, light (in weight) and in shape you adjust pretty quickly. It does take a few days to get use to chewing the air before you breath it but eventually it becomes second nature (TIC).

At the WXC the weather is the same for all the competitors and all knew the location it would be held at had tendancies toward the hot/humid side. So all is fair.

Sorta funny though that the US decided to pick it team for a sea level hot/humid race by running a trials at high altitude in very cold snowy conditions. But heck, what has the USATF ever done that makes sense.

oldieguy wrote:

Someone could insert the story about Craig Virgin in Austin in 1974 NCAA meet.

6 miles. He and others trailed John Ngeno (I believe) when Virgin started spinting a lap early. I don't think he finished. I know it was run at night, but the humidity was horrendous and times appropriately slow.

I don't think Virgin sprinted a lap early, he collapsed after 23 laps. At the AAU cross 9 months earlier he collapsed with about a quarter mile to go. The guy could run until his eyes rolled backwards in his head.

Heat does some really bad things to the body.

Who could forget the NCAA's at Duke in the late 90s where one of the Hauser twins went from full stride to a blurry stagger in about ten meters, eventually collapsing, I believe, just short of the finish line. THAT was one ugly looking finish.

malmo wrote:

Who could forget the NCAA's at Duke in the late 90s where one of the Hauser twins went from full stride to a blurry stagger in about ten meters, eventually collapsing, I believe, just short of the finish line. THAT was one ugly looking finish.

Excellent example. Wallace Wade Stadium's bowl can get nasty.

The year in question 2000, and the incident prevented Stanford's third straight 1-2-3 in the 10,000.

someone told me he had one kidney, but at least one extra testicle (joke) because he was so tough.

txRUNNERgirl wrote:

I don't know if they still have those Ricky Cox Trinity 5ks, but we would race those each week. I hated how he always warned us about heat exhaustion ("slow down if you need to...") right before the start of the race. We knew it was hot, but we didn't want to be reminded.

YOU in general had to be reminded because YOU are an idiot. If the greatest runner in the history of Fort Worth says something you need to listen. That is a family race with a lot of children and inexperienced runners (not your caliber), everything doesn't have to be about you. Ricky Cox has been putting on that race for close to 20 years....he's seen plenty of morons like you who think they know everything pass out from heat exhaustion.

funkytown wrote:

txRUNNERgirl wrote:

I don't know if they still have those Ricky Cox Trinity 5ks, but we would race those each week. I hated how he always warned us about heat exhaustion ("slow down if you need to...") right before the start of the race. We knew it was hot, but we didn't want to be reminded.

YOU in general had to be reminded because YOU are an idiot. If the greatest runner in the history of Fort Worth says something you need to listen. That is a family race with a lot of children and inexperienced runners (not your caliber), everything doesn't have to be about you. Ricky Cox has been putting on that race for close to 20 years....he's seen plenty of morons like you who think they know everything pass out from heat exhaustion.

I know who he is and I know the reasons for the speech. They did have a separate children's race though. Sorry for complaining (I wasn't the only one who did), but I was just remembering some experiences with the weather. Keep in mind that I was in high school at the time, so I did think everything was about me to some degree.

malmo, why are you so worried about the weather? Did you avoid hot weather when you raced in your prime? Perhaps we should not have sent our squad to Belgium when Ritz and Teg placed 3rd and 5th in muddy, horrible, conditions.

You race the conditions. If anything, the heat and humidity and dew point might help out some of our athletes. In a personal story, I ran 3000M SC JR Nationals as the slowest entrant... day ended up being 91-degrees and miserable at the 2:30PM start. Ended up with the bronze that day because I was more acclimated to the heat than the other, faster, steeplers and ran closer to my ability than the others since the heat did not affect me as much (closed well over last 1 km).

Anyway, just wanted to share that some athletes look forward to warm/hot/miserable days to perform their best in adverse conditions and it should not be a focus and/or stress of an athlete.

Hmm...im not sure were your getting the 77 dew point...the link you cited doesnt have a dew point...it does have todays low as 77?

Anyway it doesnt matter the relative humitity(a func of dew point relative to temp) is suppose to drop a good bit by saturday..

You know what? To hell with all of this Mombassa high dew point shit!! For anyone saying it's like running in Houston in July in the afternoon is full of shit!! If you OR they believe that, I guarantee you they have never run in Houston in July in the afternoon!!! Houston's AVERAGE may be 91, but most days it's more like 95-102 with very high humidity and lethal strong sun-rays. Another one? Baton Rouge! Legally, I don't think IAAF would allow that to happen with all the death suits they'll get afterwards.

Is this just an excuse for you to talk about how you ran in Jr. Nats? I know I'm impressed by that.

Sam F wrote:

Hmm...im not sure were your getting the 77 dew point...the link you cited doesnt have a dew point...it does have todays low as 77?

Sure it does. Click on the "Today" tab.