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17 years ago 03/17/2007 2:12pm EDT

i have noticed that the best times from any event 800m up are all run by someone who run a fast race a distance above there specialty . its hard to explain.

the best 800m times are from a miler background. a good mile time come from people who run the 5k. a fast 5k by the 10kers.

okay look at seb coe he ran a very fast 800m when training for a mile. an El G running fast miles when running/winning at the 5000m but you dont see El G going below the mile only above. same with kenensia running fast 10ks so he can run fast 5ks. bernard lagat running some 5k races than the mile not running 800m but above.

i guess what i am trying to say is that if you want to run a fast 800m run the mile an if you want to run afast mile run the 5000m an so on. fast 5k run the 10k and fast 10k run marathon.

any feed back any flaws

17 years ago 03/17/2007 2:26pm EDT

re: believe

I always felt that it was the opposite-John Walker said that if the milers ran on the roads they would clean up all the 10k races they ran in

El G was a good championship 5k runner because he had a milers speed-and because he basically trained like a 5k runner anyways-mainly aerobic stuff

17 years ago 03/17/2007 2:27pm EDT

re: believe

Well, Coe was a decent miler (you know, world records, double Olympic 1500m champ) and I don't think he was much of a force at 5000m, or even 3000m...

17 years ago 03/17/2007 2:29pm EDT

re: present

very true about coe but i think his 800m time was stronger than his mile time and he was a great miler

17 years ago 03/17/2007 2:37pm EDT

re: believe

and that brings another question if coe would have ran the 5000m could he have gotten a faster mile i would say yes.

17 years ago 03/17/2007 2:47pm EDT

re: believe

Interesting point but nothing new. This is the whole idea behind the Lydiard program--he found out when he was training for the marathon, his performances of ALL the distances improved. It is because of the strength you develop through training for the longer event. Dick Quax said the same thing--when he moved up to 5000, his 1500m time improved by 2~3 seconds. Bill Baillie broke 4-minutes for the mile when he switched to 5~10k and SLOWED down to 72 seconds quarters for his training, now when he was training 67 seconds. Paula Radcliff ran her PR 10k after her spectacular marathon. So did Yoko Shibui (30:48 for 10k). El G used to run 5000 when he was a junior. I always thought when Michael Stember was running 800 to improve his 1500, he should have been running 5000.

This does NOT, however, mean that you should all go out and run a marathon to be faster. Depending on the individual and the background of the individual, working on shorter distances to sharpen up would help as well.

17 years ago 03/17/2007 2:57pm EDT

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believe wrote:
and that brings another question if coe would have ran the 5000m could he have gotten a faster mile i would say yes.

You're an idiot.

17 years ago 03/17/2007 3:00pm EDT

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17 years ago 03/17/2007 6:10pm EDT

re: believe

Hmmmmm. Interesting. Didn't Horwill suggest that?

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