screwed...help

I suggest you first learn to spell paraphernalia properly.

There's probably nothing you can do.

They have to take this zero tolerance approach to placate the helicopter parents.

They have a policy to follow and no amount of begging or pleading on your part will change a thing.

Unless your parents are willing to make a significant donation to the school, you'd better start looking for off campus housing.

Its not so bad. Dorms suck anyway.

there isnt a no tolerance policy though, i actually know some people who have been caught in possession of marijuana and still live on campus

Why don't you ask them what they did?

What's the big deal with moving off campus anyway? Its cheaper, quieter, you can smoke your brains out etc etc

basically what happened what they did was not get kicked out. their initial punishment was probation and it never came to where i am now. the whole living off campus thing is tricky for me since all of my student loans are in my parent's names so they financially have me by the balls. in order for me to live off campus i would have to assume all of the financial responsibility, which would include high interest non-fixed loans and a part time job to pay rent etc. etc...

So you skipped the whole probation step cause of the addition of the beer? Then like I said, there's probably nothing you can do. They are just following whatever guidelines were written for them. Beg all you want, they won't care.

However, you have been leaving some important info out of this story...

Why would you have to assume all the financial responsibility to live off campus?

Let me guess, you haven't told Dad about this yet, and he's gonna cut ya off when he finds out? And if you can weasel your way back into the dorms you won't have to tell him?

Guess what? The school is gonna inform them anyway. In fact the letter is probably already in the mail.

My advice is fess up before they get the letter.

actually i told the folks about it the day after i got caught, and ur right they did contact them. the parents are fully aware that i am up to the appeal process. the whole financial situation is such...

i dont have the loans in my name bc i havent established good credit as my parents have. they took them out in their names to help lessen the cost of college. i am paying them back the money after i graduate. i do not come from a very wealthy family so this isnt one of those situations where mommy and daddy are paying it all.

regardless their rationale is that if i f'ed up they will not support me getting an appt. since they dont support that, if i decide to say f them and do it i would have to assume the responsibility of tuition, and take out the loans in my name which would result in high interest.

basically short of doing the above, finding some kind of loophole or way to play my cards is my only hope.

say you were really depressed and looking for ways to relieve it-like someone died or something surfaced from childhood. and start to go to counseling right now, so you look like you're being proactive. Be like "look, i've been dealing with some really tough and draining personal issues, then name the issue(s), and say but i realize how i was dealing with these issues was not effective or acceptable, and i'm trying now to correct this and deal with my problems through counseling. and do the counseling on campus. get in for an appointment ASAP. and keep making them.

this is your best shot. good luck!

Why don't your folks support you getting an apartment?

And why would they cut you off if you did?

Maybe the angle you should be working here isn't the school but your folks?

I still don't think the dorms will let you back in. That therapy idea was cute. But you'd have to be a stone cold liar to pull that sort of crap off.

Let me ask another question.

What school is this? Is it a small private school or a large state school?

If its the former you might have a chance. The latter not so much.

My guess is the latter. That makes you just one more pion kid out of 30,000 others.

I bet you'd be shocked when you learn how many kids are kicked/dropped out of school every year. Those administration people you are appealing to have heard it all. They are callused and cold. They have to hear the sob stories from 5 more potheads before lunch.

Remember all those media reports about kids binge drinking to death. Yeah, that's what they care about. Not you. You're just another possible problem.

small private school...

and they dont support gettin an appt. bc they think i will just go crazy with partying, and ur probably right about working them over instead of the school, but ill see how the appeal goes first

Man, my esp is really off today. Gotta remember to take more zinc in my diet.

If its a small private school you have a chance.

What you need to do is get your parents involved. They have to be your advocates. Get them to call the dean (a donation never hurts either).

Small schools are more likely to listen to parents than big schools.

Go over the appeals board head if you can (but be careful, this can very easily backfire). If you can convince a dean or some other higher up with a nice sob story they can pressure the appeals board for you.

But whatever you do, be honest. At the first wiff of BS, the appeals board will can your ass.

Be pathetic but not anoying. Be open and hohnest. Ask for the schools help don't fight them.

chi wrote:

and they dont support gettin an appt. bc they think i will just go crazy with partying

Sounds like they underestimated your ability to do that in a dorm.

Maybe this experience will make you grow up. Do you expect anyone to be sympathetic? If I were your parents, I wouldn't waste any more money.

no i dont expect anyone to be sympathetic...as i stated above i made a poor choice and im obviously paying the consequences...i just came on to get some advice from someone who may have done the same thing or would know how to best handle it

and its actually less expensive to get an appt so there wouldnt be any wasted money

Real Novice,

Lay off the kid.

So he did a little pot and got caught. Big deal, happens all the time. Wasn't the smartest move in the world. But its not like we all weren't young and stupid too.

Heck, he could be president with a resume like that (just stay away from fat girls that like to give head).

chi wrote:

basically what happened what they did was not get kicked out. their initial punishment was probation and it never came to where i am now. the whole living off campus thing is tricky for me since all of my student loans are in my parent's names so they financially have me by the balls. in order for me to live off campus i would have to assume all of the financial responsibility, which would include high interest non-fixed loans and a part time job to pay rent etc. etc...

Oh shit. A job to pay your rent. Almost like a real live adult.

collegal wrote:

say you were really depressed and looking for ways to relieve it-like someone died or something surfaced from childhood. and start to go to counseling right now, so you look like you're being proactive. Be like "look, i've been dealing with some really tough and draining personal issues, then name the issue(s), and say but i realize how i was dealing with these issues was not effective or acceptable, and i'm trying now to correct this and deal with my problems through counseling. and do the counseling on campus. get in for an appointment ASAP. and keep making them.

this is your best shot. good luck!

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT DO THIS. NOT ONLY WILL THEY THINK YOU ARE A DRUG ADDICT/ALCOHOLIC, BUT THEY WILL THINK YOU ARE CRAZY TO BOOT.

not something you want.

live off campus you prick. find somewhere dirt cheap. if you live in a really expensive city like Boston or DC, you might want to find friends that live off campus, churches, hell even being homeless may not be so bad. You care about your education don't you?

not a pothead wrote:

Real Novice,

Lay off the kid.

So he did a little pot and got caught. Big deal, happens all the time. Wasn't the smartest move in the world. But its not like we all weren't young and stupid too.

Why lay off? Your attitude defines exactly what is wrong with kids these days. They are presented with a set of rules, break them, and then whine when they have to face the consequences.

My roommmate got caught freshman year and did the "sob story" about how he was having a hard time finding friends, and that he was holding the weed for a kid because he was treating him like a friend. AKA, "I have no friends, my life is hard, this kid was nice, so I was trying to do him a favor. I now realize that this kid isn't actually a good friend because he would put me in this position". It was such BS, but it worked. He was a very good liar though....