Keep the BCS and SOS !

what the hell are you talking about?!?

No Way Jose wrote:

USC lost to UCLA and Oregon State in the Pac-10. I'm not surprised in the least. The Pac-10 is the toughest and most competitive conference in college football and in most NCAA sports as well.

no the pac-10 is not, the only reason i'm not surprised at USC's losses either is because they aren't that good. there is no way the pac-10 compares at all to the SEC or the Big 12. the only reason SEC teams aren't ranked as high is because they play a top 15 team every other week!

and your logic with the playoff system is all wrong as well. the rankings would still take into account strength of schedule, they wouldn't get rid of it just because there is a playoff system. the rankings would still decide the seeding for the playoff, who got in, etc. who else would they do it?

The Pac-10 gets all their championships from Water Polo and Volleyball. Who gives a rats ass.

The SEC and Big 10 is way overrated by the BCS. USC always beats OSU and Mich in the Rose Bowl. ND has a career NFL credit taker as a head coach yet is rated in the top 12. Ohio State hasn\'t played anyone. Neither has Boise State. Why isn\'t Boise State in the BCS title game ? Because the SOS preseves the status quo. Without the SOS, there\'s no handicap. Without handicaps we have no advantages in the BCS polling. It\'s like copying Asian kids taking one APD test after another ;-) (Im\'m not a racist, they work hard, and deserve all they get).

With even recruiting the Pac-10 would get all the coaches and players like they do now in all the other NCAA sports. You can favor the BCS like I do but don\'t believe the bull about the weakness of the Pac-10. It\'s so obvious they are better when you see the healthy student bodies on their campuses. Without the BCS it\'ll be the end of 100,000 attendance games in the mid-west and south. After all, who wants to play in South Bend when you can play in the sun at Arizona State ? Only an Eskimo. There\'s a winter freeze all ovet the mide-west and south now, people are dying to go to Frisco or La La Land, hell I\'d go tomorrown morning if I had the money.

With the BCS and SOS, it gives OSU, NE, MI, TX, LSU, A&M, USC a huge advantage and channels them into the bowls. Without the advanatge, as in the case of a totally even NCAA Playoff Championships, there is no reason for some hotshot prep to choose the cold weather schools. The c********* can pick any school and have an equal chance at the NCAA Champs. USC, Big West, Pac-10, and southwestern schools would get the majority of the top preps and coaches. Would you rather freeze or f*** on the beach ? Now do you see why the BCS must remain ?

No Way Jose wrote:

With the BCS and SOS, it gives OSU, NE, MI, TX, LSU, A&M, USC a huge advantage and channels them into the bowls. Without the advanatge, as in the case of a totally even NCAA Playoff Championships, there is no reason for some hotshot prep to choose the cold weather schools. The c********* can pick any school and have an equal chance at the NCAA Champs. USC, Big West, Pac-10, and southwestern schools would get the majority of the top preps and coaches. Would you rather freeze or f*** on the beach ? Now do you see why the BCS must remain ?

huh? you're making no sense. The majority of college football fans don't like the BCS. the one's that do like it want to keep the current system because of the payout to the bowl participants. A playoff would mean the eventual winners would play more games (and get more money).

for the record, the pac10 is NOT the best conference in cfb. the sec is better top to bottom and the big10 is the best title contenders.

Pac10 football = USC and an overrated Cal or oregon team every year. nothing else.

You are brainwashed if you think the Big 10, SEC are better than the Pac 10 especially this year of all years. The Pac-10 wins the most NCAA Championships every year. I think we need the BCS and the SOS to preserve college football traditions, but I don\'t believe the crap about better football in the Big 10, SEC, big 12, ND, it\'s simply bull s h i t. The BCS uses the SOS handicap to preserve the top football teams and we all know that. Some want the NCAA playoffs to be outside of the bowls. That would dilute the bowl games. My guess is there will be exclusive contrats made to stop bowl game participants from playing in a playoffs. That\'s the only way to save OSU-MI, NE-OK, USC-UCLA, FSu-FL, TX-A&M, etc. 100,000 game matchups, and college football rivalries in the mid-west and south. Playoffs mean there are no more bowl incentives which today is why preps and coaches choose the top 12-20 football schools. They\'ll pick the beach and the sun and the surf if you make it so that all Division 1 teams have an even shot starting in August. That\'ll never happen I tell you because of money and money and money.

"USC always beats OSU and Mich in the Rose Bowl. "

USC doesn't always win the Rose Bowl, but if they're playing the Rose Bowl, they're playing it on their home turf, how sweet a gig is that?

"After all, who wants to play in South Bend when you can play in the sun at Arizona State ? Only an Eskimo. There's a winter freeze all ovet the mide-west and south now, people are dying to go to Frisco or La La Land, hell I'd go tomorrown morning if I had the money."

So you apparently live in the midwest. Why don't you move out west? Maybe we can get a collection going for you on Letsrun.

I'm guessing you live under a bridge?

I agree you Jose, you mid-west bird turd. The BCS will remain cuz of dee moulah. ESPN/NBC won\'t let it go no way in hell will they let the BCS get away. The PAC10/WCC/BigWest/Mountain schools would steal all of the recruits if there is a playoffs. The PAC10 kicks as in every sport. Leave football for the rest of us slumbabies.

USC... no wrote:

no the pac-10 is not, the only reason i'm not surprised at USC's losses either is because they aren't that good. there is no way the pac-10 compares at all to the SEC or the Big 12. the only reason SEC teams aren't ranked as high is because they play a top 15 team every other week!

Wow, a USC team that isn't "that good" completely humiliated Arkansas, Nebraska, and Notre Dame. What does that say about the rest of the country? Oh, and you're right, SEC teams play a top 15 team every week by virtue of the fact that they are IN THE SEC and quite possibly, overinflated to begin with. The logic is incredible.

Harmon generally echoes my sentiment:

If he's right, the SEC goes 4-4, as per usual, and both the Arkansas and Auburn games should be tight. The SEC's top four are favored in three of the four games, but they will probably go 2-2.

Yes, the media and coaches all conspire to over-inflate the SEC. Year in, year out. You know that all the media darlings reside in the SEC, and are certainly not teams like Notre Dame and USC.

Surely, ESPN should know better than to over-hype the SEC like they do....blah blah blah.

Sagarin, that is quite possibly your dumbest arguement to date- and that's saying something. Stick to something you know about, which is apparently not college football.

The Rose Bowl is in January you dork ! Who in their right mind plays football in the tundra of Michigan in January ? The weasels in Michigan hibernate for the winter, nobody would show up to the game.

The Paperboy wrote:

Yes, the media and coaches all conspire to over-inflate the SEC. Year in, year out. You know that all the media darlings reside in the SEC, and are certainly not teams like Notre Dame and USC.

Surely, ESPN should know better than to over-hype the SEC like they do....blah blah blah.

Sagarin, that is quite possibly your dumbest arguement to date- and that's saying something. Stick to something you know about, which is apparently not college football.

Uh, did I say that the media and coaches CONSPIRE to over-inflate the SEC? No, what I am saying is that the SEC gets a pass by virtue of the fact that they don't play anyone outside of their own conference, so no one really knows how good they are. I have pointed out the less-than-stellar record of the SEC in bowl games over the years on another thread, particularly against the spread, which puts them on par with any other conference really. It's not a bad conference by any stretch, and I have nothing against it, but all of this SEC hype on here makes one nauseous.

You know, the irony is that my cousin was the starting quarterback at UConn in the late 80s, and he pretty much feels the same way. I may not have any credibility, but certainly he does.