Did FDR know about Pearl Harbor in advance?

im pretty sure christopher columbus was a good guy too. Thats what i learned.

"So you're telling me that a hot teacher is having sex with some boy in this school? Well, we'd better find him to give him the luckiest boy ever award."

-More or less FDR Post PH. There was a conspiracy to suppress that

i agree with that when i was 14 why didnt any 23 year old teachers hit on me

Since Today's The Date wrote:

What do you think? I don't think FDR was a runner prior to his illness, to keep it on topic.

Absolutely. You know what else?

Washington knew it was cold at Valley Forge.

Kennedy and Oswald were really very good friends.

Lincoln was the author of My American Cousin, and Boothe was just a harsh critic.

Mussolini lost his one and only true love because his train was late.

Star Jones wrote:

Strange how ignorance and "average joes" go hand-in-hand.

Strange how many people on this board think that insults are a valid substitute for proof.

Please go actually read something on the subject. Gordon Prange spent most of his LIFE writing on the subject of Pearl Harbor and leaves no stone unturned. In addition to his decades long interviews and research of the American side of the story, he also spent many years spent in Japan interviewing and getting to know most of the Japanese commanders involved. When one sees all of the "evidence" laid out, the entire idea that FDR had some secret foreknowledge of tihs becomes laughable.

Gore Vidal's book The Golden Age makes a pretty strong case that FDR knew it was coming.

But its faction so knows.

From Time Magazine:

He had been an athlete, a man who had loved to swim and sail, to play tennis and golf, to run in the woods and ride horseback in the fields. Determined to overcome his disability, he devoted seven years of his life to grueling physical therapy. In 1928, however, when he accepted the Democratic nomination for Governor of New York, he understood that victory would bring an end to his daily therapy, that he would never walk under his own power again.

and the Japanese certainly knew about Pearl Harbor in advance

karliots wrote:

Whether FDR knew or not, it sure is a good thing Japan bombed Pearl Harbor (good in the grand scheme of things, not for those individuals at Pearl Harbor). Imagine if Japan didn't attack us on Dec. 7th, 1941. Who knows when we would have entered the war. If we had waited just another two more years, Germany may have developed a nuclear weapon by then. Imagine the consequences of Hitler in control of nuclear weapons.

Our involvement in the war was just in the nick of time.

Oh come on. He's just like you and me. He was just protecting himself from the USA. Had we just stayed within our borders and not provoked Japan in to attacking us, he would have no need for nukes. All we had to do was negotiate with him, like we are going to do with Iran and North Korea, and he would have lived peacefully with everyone.

There are no bad people in the world. Excpet for the US. If the USA just minded its own business, everyone would get along.

After the attacks on Pearl Harbor the senate voted 82 to 0 and the House voted 388 to 1 for declaring war on Japan.

technically, the US Navy fired at and sank a Japanese mini-sub as it was entering the harbor well before the actual attack

so how can you blame the Japanese for retaliating?

violence begets violence, if only we had not attacked that sub

Stinnet, not Stennet

contrary view:

http://www.usncva.org/books/book-10.html

the only one who knows is FDR, and he never told

Typical Liberal wrote:

There are no bad people in the world. Excpet for the US. If the USA just minded its own business, everyone would get along.

if we\'re talking about bad people in the world you left out the true enemy of the world...WALMART...the Walmart Corporation makes the US look like a little kitten.

not to mention exxon mobil...they\'re really extra bad too.

basically any business that turns a profit is bad when you think about it.

all we have to do is pull out of iraq let the muslims take over israel and BANG world peace. Plus an end to global warming too.

how do i know this??? i read it on the internet!

Heck of a straw-man you are parodying there wouldn't you say?

2nd Guessing Will Drive You Nuts. Did FDR know about Pearl Harbor ? What if the U.S. saw the Japanese coming ? What if the Commodore Perry hadn't bombed Tokyo earlier ? What if Hitler hadn't signed a pact with Italy and Japan ? What if the U.S. hadn't colonized the Phillipines, the Dutch, Indonesia, the Russians, Siberia, the British, Malaysia, India, China, the French in Indochina ? How did we lose China to the Communists ? Was the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki justified ? What if Truman let MacArthur nuke China ? What if France won at Dienbienphu ? How did the U.S. lose to the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese ? Why does the U.S. allow Japan to own most of Hawaii now ? and so forth...

USA? wrote:

Bombing for War is like F***ing for Virginity.

think about it.

I did. Don't you mean "Bombing for Peace.....?"

I'm guessing gas prices remain high because the United States tells Saudi Arabia to reduce their output in oil so that China (the next superpower) stumbles because they need that oil. And then when the high oil prices start to hurt the U.S. economy, they tell the Saudis to increase the output again.

bootsie wrote:

day of deceit spells it out. the documents have been declassified and confirm it beyond a shadow of a doubt. not only did fdr know, his administration actively provoked japan to attack pearl harbor to garner the support of the u.s. population (then very isolationist... up to 80 percent DIDN'T want to get involved in ww2) for an entrance into the european theater.

hmmm.... contrived pretext event to gain public support for a foreign invasion..... ring a bell with anyone?

Actually, many prominent historians have debunked Day of Deceit. Thomas Childers at UPENN is one of them.

FDR did not need a Japanese sneak attack to get us involved in the war in Europe. Wilson certainly didn't need anything of the sort to get us involved in a European War in 1917. There was a strong isolationist movement in the 1930s to be sure, but that was on the wane by mid 1940 during the Blitz and after the Nazis took France's surrender. The Congress had already authorized a massive build up of the U.S. Armed Forces. By 1940 the war production machine in the U.S. was ramping up big time. FDR could have taken the country to war in Europe by 1942 without a sneak attack by Japan.

Once again a great American president like FDR is dragged through the mud by a bunch of pseudo-historians obsessed with conspiracy theories who will undoubtedly hold next year's convention at the moon landing set in Nevada.

"beyond a shadow of a doubt"

that's so wrong it's laughable

how gullible are you?