Michigan or Florida

That sounds dumb too! Sounds like you only care that OSU wins! It's OK but dumb because your reply says nothing about who deserves it!

Mtn Dew wrote:

Now that it is official I still think OSU will win, but I think they'd have beaten UM again too.

Right now I'll say OSU 24-16.

Ok, now this really pisses me off. You are basically saying that Florida has no chance, because I doubt the line will be more than OSU by 7. If you watched the OSU-Michigan game, you would know that at least Michigan has a CHANCE. They were only down by four at several points in the second half and it was at Columbus. Additionally, it is very hard to beat a team twice. The team that has a chance SHOULD go.

You are just hedging yourself, because if Florida somehow miraculously wins, you can say, "See, I told you so about the SEC." But if they lose, you can say that you were realistic and predicted it. You think Florida will lose by 10 but still desrves to go? Unbelievable.

Wow, I need to quit the meth. Make that 8 points, not 10.. still a wide margin.

Fair Enough wrote:

Thank goodness, justice is served!

Now, Ohio State will defeat Florida and Michigan will lose to USC, so the Wolverine fans will FINALLY stop complaining!!!

Well, I hate to say "I told you so," BUT...

...it is painfully obvious that the Gators were the right choice. Michigan has been completely out-classed by USC in the Rose Bowl, so hopefully their rabid fans will stop hallucinating about being the second-best team in the country!

Both teams were rusty initially. Michigan got spanked.

How many ranked teams has Michigan beat? 1

One freakin ranked team!

Overrated.

they beat 2 ranked teams and should have beaten ohio state.

schembechler wrote:

they beat 2 ranked teams and should have beaten ohio state.

Why? Because they kept fighting back every time Ohio State would build up their lead to more than one touchdown?

They LOST... get over it!

If anything, this season is yet another compelling reason why they really need some type of playoff system. Don't get me wrong, I DON'T like the Trojans... I'm a UCLA guy myself. But I have to admit that they are probably one of the top two or three teams in the nation, and I honestly think that they are the only squad that would stand a chance to defeat Ohio State.

schembechler wrote:

they beat 2 ranked teams and should have beaten ohio state.

Oops your right, forgot about Wisconsin (another overrated team).

What do you mean should have beaten Ohio State?!? If it wasn't for the refs keeping that game close, that game would have been won by at least 3 TDs

D-1 football has no national championship only a beauty contest. It has no playoff so that only 10-15 schools have a shot at it. It's the good old boy system.

It is the only college sport not decided on the field. Every other sport at every other level has either a playoff or a championship event (ie XC in which many teams decide the outcome).

I hope Ohio State wins so that Urban Meyer wipes that smug look off his face.

This is humorous actually. So, USC beats Michigan as I predicted they would. In fact, they simply OUTCLASSED every out-of-conference team they played this year, including the SEC #2, Big Ten #2, Big 12 #2, and Independents #1. The SEC lost two of three today in games that MATTER, and Auburn did NOT win impressively over a questionable Nebraska squad. LSU will likely beat Notre Dame, but not by more than 20 like USC and Michigan did, and Florida will be beaten decisively by OSU. So what does this all mean? Well, not much, other than the fact that the SEC is not as good as all the fans trumping the conference think it is, the Pac-10 is not as bad as everyone thinks it is, and the Big Ten may not be the best conference in the country, but they are not worse than the SEC. This is all going surpisingly easily according to plan.

Sagarin wrote:

So, USC beats Michigan as I predicted they would.

Yes... right after I did, as I seem to recall.

Additionally, you are conveniently omitting the fact that you also said "But I still think that Michigan deserves to be playing for the title."

Care to take a second look at that analysis?

FL and OSU had an easy schedule this year. The BCS uses stats from last year for the SOS, which makes the SOS invalid for this year. The PAC 10 is the toughest conference in college football year after year, yet the BCS and AP never rate PCA 10 nor western teams fairly. There's no real NC, we need an NCAA playoffs. OSU and FL would bounce out in the early rounds.

Fair Enough wrote:

Yes... right after I did, as I seem to recall.

Additionally, you are conveniently omitting the fact that you also said "But I still think that Michigan deserves to be playing for the title."

Care to take a second look at that analysis?

Uh, first of all, you can have all the credit in the world if you, whom I don't know or give two shits about, predicted this outcome first. I really could care less. My predicting the same outcome (I thought it would be closer) has nothing to do with the existence or timing of any of your, whoever you are, posts. Secondly, as far as we knew, AT THE TIME, I believe Michigan deserved to be playing for the national title, certainly over Florida. This doesn't change that.

Additionally, because it sure doesnt't seem that you remember the last posts on this topic, I said the PAC-10 was very likely underrated, since USC could pretty much destroy ANY opponent fron ANY other conference but not get through their own unscathed. I also said the SEC would most likely split their games, especially the big ones, proving that they are NOT the superior conference that Mountain Douche and all their other fans think they are. Lo and behold, their RANKED teams managed to win only one of three IMPORTANT games today. They will NOT win the next two.

I don't know what your problem is, but I am CERTAIN that you are the "Congratulations..." dude from last year who is probably still fuming that USC got beat by Texas. I am not "conveniently omitting" shit. USC did not deserve to be in the title game by virtue of the fact that they lost TWICE. Michigan did, but that does not mean that USC couldn't play with ANYONE in the country, AS I SUGGESTED BEFORE. I am simply trying to be objective, unlike your Pac-10 biased self, and objectivity suggests that there is NO dominating conference.

Sagarin wrote:

...I don't know or give two shits about...

I don't know what your problem is...

I am not "conveniently omitting" shit.

Wow... how are those anger management classes coming along, Sagarin? You have some serious issues.

You obviously have a tremendous amount of knowledge about the sport, but you are also extremely sensitive and/or defensive!

While I admire the way that you express your opinion (or at least the calm aspects of it), I also lost quite a bit of respect for you when you acted like an arrogant @$$ to that ex-military kid who asked you a question about sub-13:00 10K finishes. Looks like you are simply going off on another rant again... what a surprise!

Why are we switching topics now? I never had a beef with you on this thread. All I was ever challenging was the SEC fans who were SO certain that their beloved Florida team should be playing for the championship. This wasn't ever about who said USC would win FIRST chronologically. I have said that on many a threads, probably before I said it on this thread (just ask Flagpole). Go and have a look for yourself. You know what I honestly think? I think USC is the ONLY team that can play at OSU's level at this point. But that doesn't mean they deserved to after losing to the Bruins.

Why are you making this personal? What arrogant retort are you referring to? Was it one of my MANY where I find it sad that any number of Kenyans can run two back-to-back 5ks faster than any American can run one? I may sound like a dick, but it's a FACT, a fact that I hope can inspire some of our young elite to get cranking.

I don't have a vendetta, really. I just like objectivity and calling people out on their subjectivity. That's it.

Sagarin wrote:

What arrogant retort are you referring to? Was it one of my MANY where I find it sad that any number of Kenyans can run two back-to-back 5ks faster than any American can run one? I may sound like a dick...

Yes, indeed...

Sagarin wrote:

I think USC is the ONLY team that can play at OSU's level at this point. But that doesn't mean they deserved to after losing to the Bruins.

It is too bad USC didn't take care of UCLA. As well as USC played today, OSU would have had their hands full. On any given day........

Ok, first of all, why the diversionary tactics to divert attention away from this thread? I, too, had respect for how you carried your arguments as well previously, until this sophomoric strategy that is. I don't understand the point, really?

Secondly, yes I did indeed react abruptly and abrasively (evidently) to this particular poster because he SOUNDED like every other letsrun poster who, rather than arguing on the merits of the topic, was using sarcasm to make a useless point. Another poster on that particular thread agreed, by the way. As for my reaction to Malmo, I stand by it. He has condescended to me, as well as many others, on previous threads, and I reacted to his posts here accordingly, based on the foundation that he HIMSELF had established previously.

Why are we talking about this again? Why did you feel the need to digress away from the BCS?