Matt Tebo, NM to Colorado

Of course, look how Mercado is doing now.

Capt. Fantastic wrote:

Diego Mercado spanked Acosta at Mt Sac last year & look how they finished at Nationals. It's called peaking.

One thing you have to consider is Tebo has less oportunities to run "fast" times. Unless he travels way out of Albuquerque seeking competition & a low altitude, he isn't going to run a blazing time (only by conversions). I think he ran something like 9:06 in ABQ last year & that amazed me. I think he'll try to break 9 up there this year, which I have never heard of a high schooler doing.

V6 wrote:

Haha, yeah. They really gave it to me hard with that one.

But I still think that Wisconsin, Oregon, Stanford and Arkansas all get better recruits than CU, with or without Tebo.

I think that is called good recruiting and no bag on any of those schools nor Colorado. All schools have an equal chance at recruiting any runner so I am not sure what your problem is with those other schools getting good recruits. As I look back, Colorado has had their fair share of good ones too.

Obviously it's their recruiting. But a lot of people would rather go to Stanford (academics), Arkansas (42 national championships) or Oregon (history, history, history). I'm not sure why a lot of people pick Wisconsin over CU. Obviously everyone is on level ground but CU doesn't END UP recruiting as well, though they coach arguably the best.

Stanford is FINISHED as a distance power under "The current track coach" Money going in another direction.

go run in Albq and tell me. Kiptoo only ran 4:15 in ABQ yet nearly dipped under four minutes at sea-level. ANd don't talk crap about Tebo, he is a good kid, has the right mind set and isn't cocky at all. By the way his 10k is 30:07

Let's just agree that Tebo is freakin' sick.

absolutely a big recruit. he should fit in to the program well. (as long as he doesn't get mileage happy too soon.)

matt is one of the nicest kids you'll ever meet--very humble, very polite.

the most amazing thing about his running is that he is at the very beginning of his learning curve. he might very well do big things while in college, but his best running will likely be seen well after...

omurphy21 wrote:

ummm actually he ran 8:47

Ummm, actually he ran about 9:07. Oh wait, that was at altitude. Nahhh, altitude doesn't hamper times much. Man, would I rather have a guy that runs a 9:30 at altitude off 30 miles a week than a 9:10 sea-level kid who runs 90 miles a week.

maybe not?

He also ran that 3200 alone, he was gone from the gun and it was basically an outstanding time trial. He's a great kid, this track season should prove interesting. Like all high schoolers, it takes a little time to adjust to the increased mileage college programs demand. Matt has pretty good range, and is strong, but it's a big jump from racing 5K XC to 8 and 10k.

Grima Wormtongue=Girma Mechesco, he's a junior but this is his only year he can run xc and track due to age restriction crap. But don't count Hubers out just yet. He might not have ran his best, but I think it will be a great battle for the top 5 spots.

ohejrwjjewrhjkwhe wrote:

go run in Albq and tell me. Kiptoo only ran 4:15 in ABQ yet nearly dipped under four minutes at sea-level. ANd don\'t talk crap about Tebo, he is a good kid, has the right mind set and isn\'t cocky at all. By the way his 10k is 30:07

Edit: Kiptoo ran 4:11 at altitude in Albuquerque in his first track race, and 30 min later he ran 1:54.

Tebo is a distance guy, but he´ll get spanked by Shaddy in the mile, end of story.

Tebo is a contender for FLN but sadly doest have the kick. And sorry to bust your bubble, but he did get cockier over the years. But hey, don´t they all....

V6 wrote:

Haha, yeah. They really gave it to me hard with that one.

But I still think that Wisconsin, Oregon, Stanford and Arkansas all get better recruits than CU, with or without Tebo.

Yep they sure do get screwed with recruits. I mean Nelson, Vaughn, Pifer, Janson, Heinonen and Strang never did anything in high school.

Nelson, Pifer, Heinonen and Strang were all top 16 at footlocker finals and Vaughn ran a 8:46 3200m... Yep talk about crapy recruits... Nelson only made world XC in high school and placed 33rd at worlds. What a joke. None of those guys were any good before CU. It is just Wetmore's genius that takes these average high schoolers from barely competitive in high school to the top end of the NCAA.

They got Garrett's brother, Elliott from MN. I think that's it, though. They might get another Canadian or something, who knows...

"Had it",Why are you reading so much into V6's post? Look at it. Is he really implying that CU doesn't get good recruits(ever/at all)? You and your cronies need a sounder exegetical approach before you subject us to more of your infantile, polemical outbursts.

Had it wrote:

V6 wrote:

Haha, yeah. They really gave it to me hard with that one.

But I still think that Wisconsin, Oregon, Stanford and Arkansas all get better recruits than CU, with or without Tebo.

Yep they sure do get screwed with recruits. I mean Nelson, Vaughn, Pifer, Janson, Heinonen and Strang never did anything in high school.

Nelson, Pifer, Heinonen and Strang were all top 16 at footlocker finals and Vaughn ran a 8:46 3200m... Yep talk about crapy recruits... Nelson only made world XC in high school and placed 33rd at worlds. What a joke. None of those guys were any good before CU. It is just Wetmore's genius that takes these average high schoolers from barely competitive in high school to the top end of the NCAA.

Does Wetmore have some unspoken agreement with runners who go sub-8:50 for 2miles?

He's gotten a lot of them over the past few years, a good deal of them being altitude-based runners.

can the redactions please,

using uncommon words doesn't help prove your point. I could spew off a slew of words, but there is no reason.

My point is that Colorado gets the same level of recruits as all of the other schools that were mentioned. Actually, they have better high school prs than most of the Stanford and Arkansas teams.

indignent, ardent, austerity, encumber, enologize, extort, fatuous, insidious, lilliputian, usurp, vacuous, lewd, tedium, cipher... Look I know words too!

fyi - polemic is not used correctly in your response. I never discuss idealogy.

You have been enlightened

jrun wrote:

Does Wetmore have some unspoken agreement with runners who go sub-8:50 for 2miles?

He's gotten a lot of them over the past few years, a good deal of them being altitude-based runners.

Wetmore is just a smart recruiter. He knows that most good high-altitude based runners are overlooked because of their "slower" times; oh, wait... that is, until they go down to sea level and smoke most of the sea level runners at Arcadia. The fact is, a kid that runs a 9:20 at high altitude off of 40 miles a week is much more talented than some California kid who pops a 9:00 after running 100 miles a week and gets all the press.