How on earth did I just run my 2mile pace in a 1 mile?

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1 week ago 04/24/2024 11:26am EDT

Female hs runner here. ran an 11:08 last week in the 3200. Pretty big meet so adrenaline was prob high but I came in the one mile mark at 5:25 and felt absolutely great which shocked me and kinda gave me a little jolt of energy. I def lost a bit of time on the 6th and 7th lap clearly off my end time but 5:25 has never felt better. Confused me because my mile pr is 5:21 which doesn’t make sense bc I should be improving more in a year, but I just ran a 1600 yesterday with high hopes since my 5:25 in the 32 felt easy, and I ran a 5:30 and it felt so hard. I’m not sandbagging and I know the effort I gave. There were very light winds and it was pretty hot but not an excuse either way. anyone have any explanations of what they think I should be running in the 1600.

1 week ago 04/24/2024 11:38am EDT

re: bruhaintnoway

bruhaintnoway wrote:
Female hs runner here. ran an 11:08 last week in the 3200. Pretty big meet so adrenaline was prob high but I came in the one mile mark at 5:25 and felt absolutely great which shocked me and kinda gave me a little jolt of energy. I def lost a bit of time on the 6th and 7th lap clearly off my end time but 5:25 has never felt better. Confused me because my mile pr is 5:21 which doesn’t make sense bc I should be improving more in a year, but I just ran a 1600 yesterday with high hopes since my 5:25 in the 32 felt easy, and I ran a 5:30 and it felt so hard. I’m not sandbagging and I know the effort I gave. There were very light winds and it was pretty hot but not an excuse either way. anyone have any explanations of what they think I should be running in the 1600.

You likely have the capability to run under 5:20, but it doesn't always happen. Just be proud of your 2-mile improvement, keep trying in the 1-mile and hope it comes through.

Also think about your pacing. If you went out fast and died yesterday, go out slower.If you tried to negative-split and couldn't, go out faster. Without knowing specifics, I'd suggest trying to run 80 seconds for each of the first two laps and see what happens.

1 week ago 04/24/2024 11:44am EDT

re: automorphic

how was the pacing/competition in the 3200 vs 1600?
pacing, other people breaking the wind, adrenaline. these things are all real.
wind is also real, that's a couple seconds or more.
And your body may not have been fully recovered from what sounds like was an all time performance just a few days prior.

you must have gone to the well, seeing as how you went 5:25/5:43 on the front half vs back half of that race.

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1 week ago 04/24/2024 11:49am EDT

re: high school xc coach

high school xc coach wrote:
how was the pacing/competition in the 3200 vs 1600?

Ok I was first in the 1600 bc it was a dual meet and then 14th in the 3200 with first girl being like 10:30. So way better comp in the 32 but I feel like I should be able to push myself if someone is there or not

1 week ago 04/24/2024 12:04pm EDT

re: bruhaintnoway

bruhaintnoway wrote:
high school xc coach wrote:
how was the pacing/competition in the 3200 vs 1600?
Ok I was first in the 1600 bc it was a dual meet and then 14th in the 3200 with first girl being like 10:30. So way better comp in the 32 but I feel like I should be able to push myself if someone is there or not

You’d be surprised how different those results can look. I always tell my teammates to not look into weekday league/dual meet results too much because there are plenty of factors that can make you run slower than you would expect in comparison to a weekend invite.

Assuming this was a weekday meet and you ran your 3200 on a weekend, you probably

a) got less sleep going into the dual meet than the 3200

b) had a day of school going into the 16 instead of the 32 (more energy expended to stuff not related to your race)

c) different weather

d) less comp so not as mentally prepared to run hard solo

e) less hydration and fueling due to the fact it was a dual meet (and school day potentially) and not a big time invite

These were the only things i could come up right off the bat. Don’t beat yourself up if you can’t pb at a small dual meet, it gets harder to do that the better you get at running since the margin for improvement shrinks drastically as you improve. Just use it as a glorified workout and tune up for weekend and postseason meets. Hope this helps

1 week ago 04/24/2024 12:14pm EDT

re: bruhaintnoway

having others to run with can make a bigger difference than you might think.

1) they help set the pace (you set in the pack and do less work)

2) even on a calm day, you get drafting benefits (you don't get that in a race by yourself

3) competitive nature - being around others can cause you to compete = go faster

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