Rojo - Thanks for bringing this article to our attention. Well worth a read. BTW, the article's author is MARC Bloom, not Richard Bloom. Marc has been writing about running, often brilliantly, since before you were born...
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Things that never happened for 1000 points: 69 miles "mostly sub 5"
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Ackley wrote:
Three runners in this photo from the late sixties are wearing glasses. I can name two of them.
Yes, but they do not look cool.
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rojo wrote:
This week is the 50th anniversary of Richard Kimball's World Jr XC individual title and Marc Bloom is writing a 2-piece feature on it for dyestat and part 1 is out now. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND it. It has great quotes from a slew of people including Matt Centrowitz and Cheryl Treworgy (Shalane Flanagan's mom).
Kimball's win got him on the Runner's World cover and helped inspire a generation of runners.
"Rich set a standard for us,” said Ralph Serna, the nation’s No. 1 miler of 1975, at 4:07.0, and No. 2 at two miles, in 8:46.0 (behind Hulst, 8:45.0).
“When I saw that cover, I said I want to run that race next year.” (He did.) “Rich in full stride, with that USA top. Everyone took that to school and showed it around. All the runners found it inspirational. Rich launched a new era.”
Kimball was an ABSOLUTE ANIMAL when it came to training., running 69 miles once in a single day. Check this out.
If Kimball had his own genius, it was probably his high threshold for pain. Injuries didn’t stop him; nothing did. Once he ran a two-man, 24-hour relay and, when his partner gave up, Kimball took his partner’s turns as well, amassing a total of 69 miles (most under 5:00) in one day. As a senior, Kimball ran 52 races — dual meets, invitationals; 880, mile, two-mile and mile relay — in three months, commenting now, “It never crossed my mind that I was running too much.”
Anyone know what Kimball did in college or beyond? I don't see him in the tilastapaja database.
He ran 69 miles in one day, most of those miles under 5:00 pace? Well, that's a flat-out lie
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I was one of 3,789,242 fans in Candlestick Park when Dwight Clark made "The Catch".
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Cooler than cool...
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Ackley wrote:
Three runners in this photo from the late sixties are wearing glasses. I can name two of them.
Rodgers and Burfoot?
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Gerry\'s Cool, Man wrote:
Cooler than cool...
Lindgren, Slack, Merrick, McAfee, Waldrop, and on and on..... like I said...all bespectacled... all cool like Fonzi.
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He went to Oregon State, ran a road relay race against Pre, rolled his ankle and did not do anything in college. May have made one senior cross country team in the late ‘80s, and that was it.
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Late ‘70s.
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Absolutely BS wrote:
rojo wrote:
This week is the 50th anniversary of Richard Kimball's World Jr XC individual title and Marc Bloom is writing a 2-piece feature on it for dyestat and part 1 is out now. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND it. It has great quotes from a slew of people including Matt Centrowitz and Cheryl Treworgy (Shalane Flanagan's mom).
Kimball's win got him on the Runner's World cover and helped inspire a generation of runners.
"Rich set a standard for us,” said Ralph Serna, the nation’s No. 1 miler of 1975, at 4:07.0, and No. 2 at two miles, in 8:46.0 (behind Hulst, 8:45.0).
“When I saw that cover, I said I want to run that race next year.” (He did.) “Rich in full stride, with that USA top. Everyone took that to school and showed it around. All the runners found it inspirational. Rich launched a new era.”
Kimball was an ABSOLUTE ANIMAL when it came to training., running 69 miles once in a single day. Check this out.
If Kimball had his own genius, it was probably his high threshold for pain. Injuries didn’t stop him; nothing did. Once he ran a two-man, 24-hour relay and, when his partner gave up, Kimball took his partner’s turns as well, amassing a total of 69 miles (most under 5:00) in one day. As a senior, Kimball ran 52 races — dual meets, invitationals; 880, mile, two-mile and mile relay — in three months, commenting now, “It never crossed my mind that I was running too much.”
Anyone know what Kimball did in college or beyond? I don't see him in the tilastapaja database.
He ran 69 miles in one day, most of those miles under 5:00 pace? Well, that's a flat-out lie
You have forgotten the 1% effect. For every year after you have done something, you are allowed to make it about 1% better when you tell the story. So for example in college we would run mile repeats at 5:00 pace, but when I tell the youngsters about it, we ran 4:40.
Same applies here.
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1609 wrote:
He went to Oregon State, ran a road relay race against Pre, rolled his ankle and did not do anything in college. May have made one senior cross country team in the late ‘80s, and that was it.
He did manage a 3:47 1500m for San Jose State. I often saw his name in road race results, but his times were mediocre compared to the way he ran in HS.
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Ackley wrote:
Three runners in this photo from the late sixties are wearing glasses. I can name two of them.
Abby Burfoot wore glasses when he raced. So did Bob Deines. I once asked Don McGregor if he was the highest ever Olympic Marathon finishing place, 7th in 1972, of anyone who raced in glasses. He thought it was possible but wasn't sure. One of the Soh brothers raced in glasses. It's no big deal unless its raining.
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1609 wrote:
He went to Oregon State, ran a road relay race against Pre, rolled his ankle and did not do anything in college. May have made one senior cross country team in the late ‘80s, and that was it.
I dont think he ever finished in the top 100 in ncaaa xc.
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Little known fact is that he ran for Walt Lange at Jesuit, CA during his early years but his family moved so he left the school. His son had incredible talent (close to Mike Stember level) but decided to not pursue running after Freshman year. He too ran for Coach Lange and helped the team to an early state title.
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malmo wrote:
LetsGoBoomer wrote:
Yawn. Ever hear of the dawn of contact lenses?
Yes I've heard of contact lenses. But Kimball didn't wear them, nor did Gary Martin, nor did Kevin McGarry (1973), who held the Archbishop Wood school record before Martin broke it.
Your glasses comparison ends in 73/74. What happened to all the years in between then and Martin. No glasses, more contacts.
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malmo wrote:
Gerry\'s Cool, Man wrote:
Cooler than cool...
Lindgren, Slack, Merrick, McAfee, Waldrop, and on and on..... like I said...all bespectacled... all cool like Fonzi.
Again, all in 60s and 70s.
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Marauder44 wrote:
Little known fact is that he ran for Walt Lange at Jesuit, CA during his early years but his family moved so he left the school. His son had incredible talent (close to Mike Stember level) but decided to not pursue running after Freshman year. He too ran for Coach Lange and helped the team to an early state title.
His son had the talent to be possibly be the best middle distance runner in the country? I couldn’t find his name anywhere in Athletic Net.
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Athletic. net did not exist when his son ran.
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4:20 is not that fast wrote:
Marauder44 wrote:
Little known fact is that he ran for Walt Lange at Jesuit, CA during his early years but his family moved so he left the school. His son had incredible talent (close to Mike Stember level) but decided to not pursue running after Freshman year. He too ran for Coach Lange and helped the team to an early state title.
His son had the talent to be possibly be the best middle distance runner in the country? I couldn’t find his name anywhere in Athletic Net.
Maybe because it was 20 years before the internet.
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