colehbol wrote:
Nor have covid vaccines been shown in placebo-controlled trials to reduce all cause death.
Link?
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Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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joedlrt wrote:
God you guys can’t get over your power trip and allegiance to big pharma. Every month they come out with an article about some new variant and nothing happens. There have been about ten variants of concern since Omicron, and I’ve been sick exactly zero times working in a hospital, with teenagers at home, a doctor for a wife and travel on planes all over the world. The only people I know getting sick with the new strains are those who are heavily vaxxed.
You may be okay, but you can’t deny thousands have died this fall alone.
About 8,000 people die each day in this country regardless. I’m sure some have COVID when they die, just as some have the flu, some have a cold, some have strep, some have a rash, some have diarrhea, some have every other disease that people had prior to COVID. Biden had the CDC stop reporting excess deaths, so we won’t know how authentic the data is. A number of 99 year old people died lately, I’m sure you will blame it on COVID.
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Stay safe wrote:
Make sure you’re up to date on your boosters. RSV and flu too. The 1 million+ who died in the US from Covid should be a stark reminder to still take Covid seriously.
The boosters were not made for this variant. Nor have covid vaccines been shown in placebo-controlled trials to reduce all cause death. Your belief in these vaccines is not based on science - it's a religious belief...like the catholic eucharist..."take it and you're saved, decline and you're damned"
Our study highlights the significant negative correlation between all-cause excess mortality and COVID-19 vaccination coverage, supporting the crucial role of vaccination in reducing overall mortality during the pandemic.Jul 28, 2023
Assessing the Influence of COVID-19 Vaccination Coverage09 -
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colehbol wrote:
The boosters were not made for this variant. Nor have covid vaccines been shown in placebo-controlled trials to reduce all cause death. Your belief in these vaccines is not based on science - it's a religious belief...like the catholic eucharist..."take it and you're saved, decline and you're damned"
Our study highlights the significant negative correlation between all-cause excess mortality and COVID-19 vaccination coverage, supporting the crucial role of vaccination in reducing overall mortality during the pandemic.Jul 28, 2023
Assessing the Influence of COVID-19 Vaccination CoveragePlacebo-controlled. Observational data are subject to all kinds of biases (healthy user bias, for example)
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Is this a joke? wrote:
Do people still buy the inflated number of deaths caused by covid?
It’ll be a mild cold for the majority of healthy individuals. Eat your veggies, exercises regularly, and you’ll be fine.
don’t risk myocarditis by taking any booster.You sound completely stupid as hell. Covid-19 was the 3rd leading cause of death in 2020 and 2021 in America and was top 10 in 2022.
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Unvaccinated straight white maIe wrote:
I encourage all Democrats to get their 10th booster. After all, isn't it safe and effective?
Ask all the old dead unvaccinated repubs
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joedlrt wrote:
Stay safe wrote:
You may be okay, but you can’t deny thousands have died this fall alone.
About 8,000 people die each day in this country regardless. I’m sure some have COVID when they die, just as some have the flu, some have a cold, some have strep, some have a rash, some have diarrhea, some have every other disease that people had prior to COVID. Biden had the CDC stop reporting excess deaths, so we won’t know how authentic the data is. A number of 99 year old people died lately, I’m sure you will blame it on COVID.
You are stupid. Unless you are very old, your bumb ass is vaccinated for Measles, Polio, Mumps, Rubella, Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis and Hepatitis. I guess those vaccines didn't work. So tell us old wise one....just exactly how did the raging Covid-19 pandemic subside? I guess it magically disappeared one day like the habitual liar trump said it would.
It was the vaccines, you idiot, in spite of fools such as yourself whose ignorant cousins, mothers and fathers who died because they weren't vaccinated. Even the old idiot trump knew to get vaccinated and then was pumped up with every know drug, so that he didn't die when he caught it.
You fools forgot that in 2020 and 2021 the United States grew at its slowest levels ever during peacetime.
At this point going into 2024 if still don't believe in what happened with Covid-19, then never ever take any drug or go see any doctor for any illness. Your dumb ass probably believes the world is flat.
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Omicron did as much to end the pandemic as the vaccine. Now we are discussing the value / necessity of boosters. Most of the people I know getting sick now are the boosted.
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Blah blah blah blah blah wrote:
Trying to reason with the LR message board crowd about vaccinations is about as difficult as reasoning with them about the curvature of the earth. They have chosen to live in a different version of reality that suits their paranoid neo-con narrative.
What does neoconservatism have to do with it?
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458777 wrote:
joedlrt wrote:
About 8,000 people die each day in this country regardless. I’m sure some have COVID when they die, just as some have the flu, some have a cold, some have strep, some have a rash, some have diarrhea, some have every other disease that people had prior to COVID. Biden had the CDC stop reporting excess deaths, so we won’t know how authentic the data is. A number of 99 year old people died lately, I’m sure you will blame it on COVID.
So tell us old wise one....just exactly how did the raging Covid-19 pandemic subside? I guess it magically disappeared one day like the habitual liar trump said it would.
It was the vaccines, you idiot...
Truth be told, Omicron ended the pandemic. Vaccines helped, but the primary reason was Omicron.
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I do hate catching a cold. And that is what it is in it's current form. Maybe half cold, half flu. Yes, it can and will kill some vulnerable people, and they should get vaccinated in case it may help. But the numbers don't add up for a young & healthy person to take it at this point for this variant. And your a brainwashed fool if you give it to your (healthy) kids now.
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R&R wrote:
I do hate catching a cold. And that is what it is in it's current form. Maybe half cold, half flu. Yes, it can and will kill some vulnerable people, and they should get vaccinated in case it may help. But the numbers don't add up for a young & healthy person to take it at this point for this variant. And your a brainwashed fool if you give it to your (healthy) kids now.
More risky for older, unhealthy people to take the jab than to not take it
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Newname wrote:
R&R wrote:
I do hate catching a cold. And that is what it is in it's current form. Maybe half cold, half flu. Yes, it can and will kill some vulnerable people, and they should get vaccinated in case it may help. But the numbers don't add up for a young & healthy person to take it at this point for this variant. And your a brainwashed fool if you give it to your (healthy) kids now.
More risky for older, unhealthy people to take the jab than to not take it
Lol
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People who endured even mild cases of covid-19 are at heightened risk two years later for lung problems, fatigue, diabetes and certain other health problems typical of long covid, according to a new study that casts fresh light on the virus’s true toll.
According to the findings, patients who suffered bouts of covid severe enough to put them in the hospital are especially vulnerable to persistent health problems and death two years after they were first infected. But people with mild or moderate cases are not spared from the consequences when compared with those who never had covid, showing an elevated risk of two dozen medical conditions included in the analysis.
“A lot of people think, ‘I got covid, I got over it and I’m fine,’ and it’s a nothingburger for them. But that’s not everything,” said the study’s senior author, Ziyad Al-Aly, a clinical epidemiologist at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. After a couple of years, “maybe you’ve forgotten about the SARS-CoV-2 infection … but covid did not forget about you. It’s still wreaking havoc in your body,” said Al-Aly, chief of research at the Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care System.57 -
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sanchobaile wrote:
People who endured even mild cases of covid-19 are at heightened risk two years later for lung problems, fatigue, diabetes and certain other health problems typical of long covid, according to a new study that casts fresh light on the virus’s true toll.
According to the findings, patients who suffered bouts of covid severe enough to put them in the hospital are especially vulnerable to persistent health problems and death two years after they were first infected. But people with mild or moderate cases are not spared from the consequences when compared with those who never had covid, showing an elevated risk of two dozen medical conditions included in the analysis.
“A lot of people think, ‘I got covid, I got over it and I’m fine,’ and it’s a nothingburger for them. But that’s not everything,” said the study’s senior author, Ziyad Al-Aly, a clinical epidemiologist at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. After a couple of years, “maybe you’ve forgotten about the SARS-CoV-2 infection … but covid did not forget about you. It’s still wreaking havoc in your body,” said Al-Aly, chief of research at the Veterans Affairs St. Louis Health Care System.These patients are not a representative sample of the general public.
"Al-Aly’s study mined the databases of the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to analyze data for more than 80,000 COVID-19 patients admitted to hospitals between March 2020 and June 2022, and for nearly 11,000 flu patients between October 2015 and February 2019."
"The study’s authors noted two key limitations. First, the V.A. study population is predominantly older white males, which may limit the generalizability of the study’s findings. And as the researchers assessed only people who were hospitalized with COVID or flu, the results should not be extrapolated to include non-hospitalized individuals."
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