SO WHO'S RECORD WAS MORE IMPRESSIVE TODAY?? RANK THEM 1-2-3

His 2 mile is amazing, and he’ll run amazing times at 1500 and 5k. But if he’s capable of 3:26.9 and 12:37 simultaneously, they won’t be WRs and it won’t indicate that his 2 mile isn’t every bit as strong as the 1500/5k records, just that his best distance is in the middle. Just like there’s some unlucky guy out there who would be a medalist at 560 meters but was never able to make a team.

3:32 runners do not medal in the 1500m these days.

No it isn't. One has a few obstacles along the way, whatever you think his technical ability is. Competition would have long ago moved many good 3,000m runners to gain a 'cheap' medal, except they know its not that easy

Sure, it's not that easy. You need to be a sub 7: 30 guys and dedicate several weeks/months of your training to practice the technique. Thos e7:20-7:30 guys usually have better to do. So they have never tried, doesn't mean they can't.

It’s quite simple. For me to say that today’s stars are better than the previous generation, they need to run faster times that take into account the 1 second per lap benefit they gain from being able to train and race in super shoes and race with pacing lights. So that means running 4 seconds faster than El Guerrouj in the 1500, 8 seconds faster than Komen in the 3000, and 13 seconds faster than Bekele in the 5000. Either that, or break records without the super shoes and pacing lights.

Faith's

Ingrebritsen's

Girma's

Based on the order in which they are likely to be broken soon.I reckon the 3000M SC will go first .

No, no, no! Superspikes give 3 seconds per lap advantage. It cannot be more obvious, there is evidence everywhere.
So, it's quite simple, to accept a new WR taking into account the "3second per lap standard", they need to run 3:14 and sub 7.

You understand now how bad is the new generation? Aahh good old times, it was so much better back then. Let's have another glass of wiskhy to commemorate their greatness.

Shoes do not add 1 sec per lap. That is your fantasy. That would be more than most peds. If that kind of gain had been substantiated the shoes would have been banned. In md even 1 sec is a huge margin, especially in races like the 800 and 1500. Equipment, like shoes, are relatively crude tools and can't do what drugs can to change the capacity of the human body.

Except Girma apparently. 7:23 indoors is almost definitely faster than any other steeplechaser in history.

Not when every 1500m is 3:30 or less

El Bakali will probably break the 3000m SC World record soon.Clearly the potential is there looking at his performance a few weeks ago.Looks to me as well like a few more top 1500m guys will soon attempt the 2mile record too now that Ingebrigtsen has shown the way.

What about a 7:56.68 PR for someone who ran 7:58.15 5 years ago indicates they’re about to run 7:52 or faster? Coupled with how Girma beat him by 6 seconds in a flat 3k recently, I’ll be surprised if El Bakkali ever gets that WR.

And I’m more puzzled by your conclusion that other 1500 guys will attempt the 2 mile WR now that Ingebrigtsen has “shown them the way”. Of all the top 1500 guys, the only two who are actual threats to 8 minutes are Katir and Nuguse, 8:00 is a long way from 7:54.1, and it’s highly unlikely they’ll prioritize chasing fast 2 miles.

Yeah Girma is the most obvious example since he just broke the indoor 3k WR 4 months ago with the 3rd fastest time ever, kinda throws a wrench in te5n1k’s claim. But of past runners, Moses Kiptanui set WRs at both 3k and 5k and chose to run the steeplechase, setting 2 WRs and winning 3 world championship golds.

Shaheen also wasn’t too shabby, running 12:48 to put 10 meters on El Guerrouj in the last 200 in 2003. While El Guerrouj went on to get a very narrow 2nd at Worlds that year, Shaheen was happy to take the steeplechase gold. I’m guessing Shaheen would have been somewhere in the 7:24-7:26 range for a flat 3k at his best.

If someone ran 1490m in 3:15, the most immediate question would be "why didn't he run 10 more meters to break the 1500 WR?" Yeah, that would be very impressive. Impressively stupid.

Nah, you've misinterpered my post. Kipyegon and Girma are closer to the all time greats than Jacob is. I was using the all-time greats to benchmark the 3 performances to compare them relative to eachother not to the past marks.

ElG never needed special training for 2-miles time. He is, after so many years I should add, the 1500/mile/2K WR holder and he also won Olympic gold in the 5000. What else do you need to attempt 2-miles time if you have the fitness? I'm sure that even today one would host a WR attempt if there was a capable athlete promising a fast time.

They also ran a championship race in the heat in Texas, not exactly ideal conditions. It was a war of attrition and not relevant at all for comparison to the conditions in Paris.

"Otherworldly"? What would be your description if he was doping, instead of being assumed clean? What would he have run? 7.11?