Facts are troubling when they don't support your argument. Just call them all lies. Wait is the average age of the all time top 20 list? Come on. I have faith that you can add up the ages and then divide by 20.
Facts are troubling when they don't support your argument. Just call them all lies. Wait is the average age of the all time top 20 list? Come on. I have faith that you can add up the ages and then divide by 20.
I am not sure what this has to do with the tea in China, but I see exactly 25 (ok 24.99) for the age of the W at the time of the top 20 all time 5000 m times. Top 10 slightly younger at 24.24 while 21-30 average 27.08.
Top 10 for US only 27.7 and the answer is the same for Europe only.
Proves my point.
It's a known thing African runners lie about their age to get sponsorship cuz they don't always have clear birth records
It's not a lie it's a fact... It's been reported by reputable journalists... And they've even admitted it
How come only one non-African runner on the top 100 list is younger than 24 for the 5K but a bunch of African runners are close to 20
Look at the age of the non-African runners and it's like three or four years older
Besides if you're an American runner be compared to other American runners for how you going to progress because they're going through the same system so...
Cording to Astro, every runner starts doping when they go pro. So his logic woukd be that Americans improve later due to this. That means Tuohy would have to follow the same path or she won't improve.
The effects of more rigorous/focused training at altitude is the reason pro’s exhibit significant post college progress. When I was training overseas a select group of us where asked to move to higher altitude training camps to achieve parity with the African competitors. The physiological impact is well known and has been well known across the globe.
nc stater wrote:
Cording to Astro, every runner starts doping when they go pro. So his logic woukd be that Americans improve later due to this. That means Tuohy would have to follow the same path or she won't improve.
I think you are putting words in Astros mouth with your second sentence.
How so? If the only way that runners improve after college is by doping, Tuohy has to dope to get faster. Just parroting what he has told us for years. Has he been in incorrect in all of his posts on this topic? Now you tell me he is incorrect. Do I believe you or do I believe him? Seems that Tuohy fans take whatever side of aj argument makes her look best. When Monson is faster, it is because she is older. When Tuohy is faster than Cook, it doesn't matter that Cook is faster at a younger age.
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nc stater wrote:
How so? If the only way that runners improve after college is by doping, Tuohy has to dope to get faster. Just parroting what he has told us for years. Has he been in incorrect in all of his posts on this topic? Now you tell me he is incorrect. Do I believe you or do I believe him? Seems that Tuohy fans take whatever side of aj argument makes her look best. When Monson is faster, it is because she is older. When Tuohy is faster than Cook, it doesn't matter that Cook is faster at a younger age.
why don't you find his post where he says "the only way that runners improve after college is by doping"? I may have missed it but I don't think that is what he says. But if you can find it and post it I will admit I was wrong in my above post about putting words in his mouth.
Typical post from a Tuohy supporter. Why not stick to the topic rather than insult a poster? Those are the rules here. Please explain. I can link to 100 posts where you made those statements. But now I am an idiot for believing you? Hmmm.
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It is drivel to say that pros are doping? I just can't figure out which it is now. You are now telling us that your posts have been drivel and false. I guess nobody should ever believe you again if you are admitting that all of your posts have been false.
nc stater wrote:
Cording to Astro, every runner starts doping when they go pro. So his logic woukd be that Americans improve later due to this. That means Tuohy would have to follow the same path or she won't improve.
I believe that you have stated in the past that you suspect Tuohy dopes. It now sounds as if you don't believe that based on the above statement. Which is it?
you want to be a professional runner you have to dope. If not you get completely outclassed. That's it. Save the moralizing for a sport where achievement is not directly correlated to doping results. Clean athletes cannot compete with the dopers in running, and doping is so widespread that there is not much of a choice. If you are not prepared to dope as a pro, don't bother. I think the only difference is degree.
That's an Astro quote
I don't understand your statement. If she is already doping, she has no room to improve according to Astro.
Sounds like you were wrong. Astro said improvement is directly related to doping.