If you look at the sports world as a whole, she would not really be going early if she leaves this year. Elites in every other sport (baseball, football, soccer, basketball, tennis, skating, skiing, swimming and on and on) would be going pro or already be pro by now.
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K8\\\\\\2e wrote:
If you look at the sports world as a whole, she would not really be going early if she leaves this year. Elites in every other sport (baseball, football, soccer, basketball, tennis, skating, skiing, swimming and on and on) would be going pro or already be pro by now.
Yeah that's a totally different money landscape
Some sports such as women's basketball and women's distance running there's actually more money staying in college
In other words there's way more views and interest at the college level than there is at the pro level unless you are in an international elite level
Page bueckers well actually lose money when she leaves UConn because there's just less interest in pro basketball for women as there is in college
It would be the same for tuohy... It's just less interest in a second tier elite American professional women's distance runner as there is in a college superstar
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Ummmmm wrote:
high school xc coach wrote:
The reason to go pro is so that she can get better training partners, better training conditions, and to have more time for training and recovery. If she believes she can optimize all of that while still in school, she should stay. If she doesn't believe that, then she needs to decide what is her priority and how important it is too move on to the next level ASAP
another thing nobody is mentioning is better competition. She’ll get more experience racing pros rather than demolishing college fields
Finishing 30 seconds behind is hardly valuable
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Ezrun wrote:
K8\\\\\\2e wrote:
If you look at the sports world as a whole, she would not really be going early if she leaves this year. Elites in every other sport (baseball, football, soccer, basketball, tennis, skating, skiing, swimming and on and on) would be going pro or already be pro by now.
Yeah that's a totally different money landscape
Some sports such as women's basketball and women's distance running there's actually more money staying in college
In other words there's way more views and interest at the college level than there is at the pro level unless you are in an international elite level
Page bueckers well actually lose money when she leaves UConn because there's just less interest in pro basketball for women as there is in college
It would be the same for tuohy... It's just less interest in a second tier elite American professional women's distance runner as there is in a college superstar
yeah the NIL rules changed the money calculus for college athletes, especially the ones in niche sports like track. She's going to get paid well regardless so there isn't the same urgency to go pro as there might be otherwise.
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crunhge wrote:
Ummmmm wrote:
another thing nobody is mentioning is better competition. She’ll get more experience racing pros rather than demolishing college fields
Finishing 30 seconds behind is hardly valuable
but it wont be 30 seconds ..katelyn tuohy has NO altitude PRO training but was just 10 seconds behind the top distance runner in the US in the 3k .. has ran 4:24, 4:24, 4:23 in the mile/1600 in the last few weeks, what more if she actually trains like a pro ... what happens to the 10 seconds?
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U guys r out to lunch wrote:
Tuohy will get way more notoriety from trying to break every college record. 1500 thru 10k... Then becoming a semi elite pro and not being able to even beat the best USA runners for the next 2 to 3 years
It's going to be a while before she can beat monson and the top 1500 meter runners so
That is exactly the problem with US collegiate system and records. No one cares about them outside US.
In every righteous country you have U18 bests to beat, then U20 records and, IF YOU ARE REALLY GOOD, senior records. For some splendor for the mob you can also keep records of U23 marks so athletes could hold sth at least ;p
Tuohy is 21 in a few days and she is NOT good enough for real, meaningful records (at least on a national scale, we all know she is not and will not be Gudaf ;) ) so ok, let her take some more "NCAA records" to add to her "High school records" that really no one is interested of in every normal country.
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SlowTuohy wrote:
that really no one is interested of
im sorry but thousands and thousands of fans are more interested in katelyn tuohy's career than all of the active US champs and record holders combined
who gets 96k views on a race video in a DAY? um katelyn tuohy. who else? um NONE.
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SlowTuohy wrote:
let her take some more "NCAA records" to add to her "High school records" that really no one is interested of in every normal country.
no one is interested of ?? you say?
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semihaze wrote:
who gets 96k views on a race video in a DAY? um katelyn tuohy. who else? um NONE.
US population is 333,287,557 (2022 estimate)
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SlowTuohy wrote:
U guys r out to lunch wrote:
Tuohy will get way more notoriety from trying to break every college record. 1500 thru 10k... Then becoming a semi elite pro and not being able to even beat the best USA runners for the next 2 to 3 years
It's going to be a while before she can beat monson and the top 1500 meter runners so
That is exactly the problem with US collegiate system and records. No one cares about them outside US.
In every righteous country you have U18 bests to beat, then U20 records and, IF YOU ARE REALLY GOOD, senior records. For some splendor for the mob you can also keep records of U23 marks so athletes could hold sth at least ;p
Tuohy is 21 in a few days and she is NOT good enough for real, meaningful records (at least on a national scale, we all know she is not and will not be Gudaf ;) ) so ok, let her take some more "NCAA records" to add to her "High school records" that really no one is interested of in every normal country.
This is an uninformed view
If you want to call making half a million dollars a year meaningless than so be it but that is an income that very few achieve
With the amount of interest she could get from the NCAA system she could make that over the next couple of years
Bueckers Make a million a year
Being an NCAA star is nothing to laugh at in terms of advertising and sponsorship interest
Also she does have the talent to be an international star but that'll take time
And my point is that going pro isn't going to make a big difference... Because she's not going to be internationally competitive until 2027 through 2029
By 2027 she very well could be the top 10 or 20 runner in the world at various distances
By 2024 she will probably not be in the top 50 and going pro isn't going to make a big difference maybe a few places
So again there is much more to gain in the next two or three years by keeping all your NCAA eligibility and maximizing that exposure
Then turn pro and focus on the 27 through 29 Olympics and world championships
Schweitzer Simpson and Monson are competitive on the international level and there's no reason that KT cannot be as well...
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She's ranked 9th in the world at the indoor 3K and 10th at the mile this indoor season! That might be a little biased because a lot of the top pros might be focused on peeking for world championships but still. Ifshe keeps on improving she'll be in a legit top 10 distance runner in the world in a few years
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Ezrun wrote:
This is an uninformed view
If you want to call making half a million dollars a year meaningless than so be it but that is an income that very few achieve
With the amount of interest she could get from the NCAA system she could make that over the next couple of years
Bueckers Make a million a year
Yes, I forgot it's a business in US.
I compared her PBs with those of Koko. Slower for 1500 by a big margin and on a par with Koko for 5000m. Not so bad as my nick...
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Ezrun wrote:
there is much more to gain in the next two or three years by keeping all your NCAA eligibility and maximizing that exposure
staying in NCAA vs PRO runner
the only edge NCAA has is the amount of meets, meaning a lot of races that keep fans active in THREE SEASONS! on the pro level theres not much, but as long as katelyn tuohy is running, she will always be relevant, but not necessairily winning, winning gives the most attention and views and money but as long as shes running, her fanbase keeps rolling, her videos still up on youtube
tbh i think NCAA schedule takes a toll on her body more than being a PRO but hey! she loves it because she loves working hard, and i dont think she would sit around on her free time as a PRO
anyways, its very exciting for the sport... wherever katelyn goes, fans follow virtually, shes marketable than sprinters, numbers can back it up
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it took monson 4 years to be competitive at the world level .. and i srsly believe it wont take katelyn that long to be competitive at an international level .. although surely she will race international competitions right away, elly henes out there racing internationally on her first year, not podium potential but still thats what rookies need, they need experience on that level
i just know diamond league is waiting for her to turn pro so BAD, world athletic announcers already know who she is and probably how big of a fanbase she carries behind.,. i just hope she picks a PRO team that actually races and not just come out on trials like BTC
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SlowTuohy wrote:
Ezrun wrote:
This is an uninformed view
If you want to call making half a million dollars a year meaningless than so be it but that is an income that very few achieve
With the amount of interest she could get from the NCAA system she could make that over the next couple of years
Bueckers Make a million a year
Yes, I forgot it's a business in US.
I compared her PBs with those of Koko. Slower for 1500 by a big margin and on a par with Koko for 5000m. Not so bad as my nick...
She'll be the best American distance runner ever! She is one of the top three runners in the world for her age at distance! And she's improving rapidly! Running an 8:35 3K at 20 years old is something few runners on the women's side has achieved! And 20 seconds improvement in one year! She will continue to make big improvements!
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Seriously haters just keep changing their arbitrary hate!
She's already a top runner for her age... to compare her to some of the best phenoms ever and just because she's a year or two behind them is meaningless...
She's steadily progressing towards being an Olympic medalist...
When she wins people will be hating if it's not gold...
And then when she wins a gold medal people will be hating because she doesn't have the world record
She's the best ever American runner for her age at 3K and very soon at 5K... Next year or the following she'll break 420 in the mile
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Ezrun wrote:
Seriously haters just keep changing their arbitrary hate!
She's already a top runner for her age... to compare her to some of the best phenoms ever and just because she's a year or two behind them is meaningless...
She's steadily progressing towards being an Olympic medalist...
When she wins people will be hating if it's not gold...
And then when she wins a gold medal people will be hating because she doesn't have the world record
She's the best ever American runner for her age at 3K and very soon at 5K... Next year or the following she'll break 420 in the mile
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semihaze wrote:
SlowTuohy wrote:
US population is 333,287,557 (2022 estimate)
the us population gets 96k views a day on a race video??? lol
You are really dumb @Katelyntuohyfans. You don't understand what he is saying? of 330 million, she only gets 96K views, he is comparing the size of the population to the number of views. It's not even 0.1% so it's marginal. He is saying nobody watches her. You have you tubers that have more than 100 million subscribers. But that is not the point anyway. She is one of the most popular in the American Market. If she goes pro, probably with Adidas, but who knows, she would probably get a lot of offers.
Yet I agree, she should stay in college one more year while she is with her teammates and coach, but keep on doing meetings with pros and doing the us trials. Last meeting i felt she was like sad, i'm not sure from what.
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imagine not being able to understand sarcasm 😂
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