First reply of the post. I also thought it would deleted within an hour. But it had some legs.
They key, of course, was some trolls taking on a whole new agenda with the thread.
The point of the thread was mocking those that supported Musk for taking over Twitter to make it a censorship free place. Only for the new boss to act the same as the old boss. Banning people they disagree with.
First reply of the post. I also thought it would deleted within an hour. But it had some legs.
They key, of course, was some trolls taking on a whole new agenda with the thread.
The point of the thread was mocking those that supported Musk for taking over Twitter to make it a censorship free place. Only for the new boss to act the same as the old boss. Banning people they disagree with.
For inciting violence. Similar reason Trump was suspended, except there was actual violence incited by Trump on Jan 6.
But I thought the Musk Twitter meant freedom of speech. Why muzzle Kanye?
Didn't Kanye literally post a Swastika after going on Alex Jones and saying how much he loved Hitler and loved Nazis? I'm not a Trump fan, but that seems like it's in a completely different ballpark than anything Trump ever said/tweeted.
The laughable and futile thing here is that Elon believes that social media can be a centrist outlet for discussion, social media inherently feeds on controversy and disagreement, if there's little disagreement, there's little discussion, it's just a fact. Social media is divisive, every single argument on there pushes each "side" further towards the extreme. Centrists will inevitably avoid the platforms for this very reason(I.e literally everything being politicised) and the algorithm itself will continue to create the ever-growing echo chamber that is Social media.
A politically neutral social media platform is a pipedream, its the land of make-believe much like most of Musks ideas, the very fact of making bans on political views means it is by nature not politically neutral. You would think the free market capitalist that Musk is would have some understanding of this but apparently not.... its hard to take a man seriously who thinks the population can be trusted to have an unregulated self correcting free market economy but doesn't trust the population to have self correcting politics. Interesting that but then again, not really given it suits his needs to differing opinions on both.
And yes, Musk did declare himself "A free speech absolutist". Hilarious stuff, it's why I will never have a twitter account, I have better things to do than line the pockets of some hypocritical gazillionaire who has a platform and algorithmic abilities to literally brainwash a generation at his own will. Anyone who uses twitter is just a cog in the wheel whether left, right, centrist or whatever theyre political leanings are, and an absolutely unbiased and unmanipulative platform of that magnitude will never exist. Its just another fairytale being sold to the masses
Exactly, that’s why Musk is not actually a free speech absolutist.
If we’re being generous, we could say that Elons personal views may not always align with what is best for Twitter. But Twitter is clearly not allowing all speech allowed by the law.
Correct. He is censoring people, right as well as left.
If we’re being generous, we could say that Elons personal views may not always align with what is best for Twitter. But Twitter is clearly not allowing all speech allowed by the law.
Correct. He is censoring people, right as well as left.
For inciting violence. Similar reason Trump was suspended, except there was actual violence incited by Trump on Jan 6.
But I thought the Musk Twitter meant freedom of speech. Why muzzle Kanye?
Didn't Kanye literally post a Swastika after going on Alex Jones and saying how much he loved Hitler and loved Nazis? I'm not a Trump fan, but that seems like it's in a completely different ballpark than anything Trump ever said/tweeted.
Trump invited his followers to a rally in DC while they were certifying Biden’s victory. He told them to march to the Capitol. As a result, they vandalized and broke onto the Capitol. A woman was shot and killed. A police officer died after a struggle with protesters. The Vice President’s life was threatened. All of Congress was under attack by the people gathered by Trumps words.
So yes, what Kanye did was much tamer than what Trump did.
And I’m fine with Kanye’s suspension. I just thought Musk was going to allow free speech.
Didn't Kanye literally post a Swastika after going on Alex Jones and saying how much he loved Hitler and loved Nazis? I'm not a Trump fan, but that seems like it's in a completely different ballpark than anything Trump ever said/tweeted.
Trump invited his followers to a rally in DC while they were certifying Biden’s victory. He told them to march to the Capitol. As a result, they vandalized and broke onto the Capitol. A woman was shot and killed. A police officer died after a struggle with protesters. The Vice President’s life was threatened. All of Congress was under attack by the people gathered by Trumps words.
So yes, what Kanye did was much tamer than what Trump did.
And I’m fine with Kanye’s suspension. I just thought Musk was going to allow free speech.
What you and many others don't seem to understand is that Trump never incited or encouraged any violence. There's a huge difference between assembling and protesting and rioting. He condemned the violence... Again, I'm not a Trump fan and think he will be regarded as one of the worst presidents in US history, but the degree to which people misconstrue this event is totally bizarre to me.
Musk knew it all along and said that he expected the extremes on both sides would be mad at him and that is how you know you are fair. For example Alex Jones has not been reinstated.
It is you slow witted lefties who believed the fake news that all restrictions had been removed.
Over 90 percent of the conservative bans were purely political. Musk has promised to expose the political manipulation of twitter for the Dems that was done during the 2020 election. Coming soon.
Either you censor or you don't.
Musk is censoring
There are limits to free speech. Inciting violence is one of them. Defamation is another. They are legalized censorship. Typically, when we say censoring, we mean within the constraints of laws of free speech. Even then Twitter is a private company and free speech means that the government should not infringe. However, it gets murkier when Congress starts to put pressure on social media companies to censor. Also there definitely is a balance between trying to make money via advertising and trying to advocate free speech. BTW, both parties have engaged in trying to censor people/companies they don't like when it suits them. I think in South Carolina wanted to basically ban people from talking about abortion. Neither Pugs or Libtards have a monopoly on idiots.
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What the hell did any Jewish person ever do to you to make you so suspicious of all the Jews you’ve never met in your life?
SBF, Wm Rick Singer, Epstein, and so many more commit huge crimes and escape justice.
Even Madoff and G Maxwell sent to country club prisons.
Weinstein raped for decades and was protected.
Me Too movement exposed dozens of powerful members of the tribe yet none indicted.
Steve Wynn, Israel Horowitz, Dustin Hoffman, Jeffrey Tambor, Mark Halperin, Leon Wieseltier, James Toback, Al Franken, James Levine, Jeremy Piven, Woody Allen, Brett Ratner, Michael Oreskes, Bruce Weber — all have been accused in one way or another of sexual assault or harassment, primarily in the workplace.
On July 7, 2001, after being asked by security guards to remove her Mercedes from a fire lane, Grubman intentionally drove her father's Mercedes Benz SUV[12] into a crowd of people outside of the Conscience Point Inn at 1976 North Sea Road in the Hamptons, injuring 16 people. Grubman was later charged in a 26-count indictment with felony crimes including second-degree assault, driving while intoxicated, and reckless endangerment.[13] The subsequent trial garnered widespread media coverage,[13][14][15] not only because of the particular circumstances of the crash, but because of what Richard Johnson, editor of the New York Post's Page Six, referred to as "the overreaching drama of class warfare."[16] Grubman was alleged to have made an inflammatory statement before striking her victims with her vehicle: "F*ck you, white trash."[17] Later, allegations arose that she received "special treatment"[18] at the hands of police, who did not perform a Breathalyzer test[18] despite allegations, and later, criminal charges, that she was intoxicated at the time of the incident.[13][19] In the criminal trial, Grubman faced up to eight years in prison, but served only thirty-eight days in jail and received five years' probation after reaching a plea bargain for leaving the scene of a car accident.
What the hell did any Jewish person ever do to you to make you so suspicious of all the Jews you’ve never met in your life?
SBF, Wm Rick Singer, Epstein, and so many more commit huge crimes and escape justice.
Even Madoff and G Maxwell sent to country club prisons.
Weinstein raped for decades and was protected.
Me Too movement exposed dozens of powerful members of the tribe yet none indicted.
Steve Wynn, Israel Horowitz, Dustin Hoffman, Jeffrey Tambor, Mark Halperin, Leon Wieseltier, James Toback, Al Franken, James Levine, Jeremy Piven, Woody Allen, Brett Ratner, Michael Oreskes, Bruce Weber — all have been accused in one way or another of sexual assault or harassment, primarily in the workplace.
Not one indicted.
Why do you defend this?
You don’t understand that this applies to all rich and famous people, not just the Jewish ones.
Louis CK is touring right now. Deshaun Watson is making his season debut today. Antonio Brown managed to not get arrested this week. Kevin Spacey is a free man, enjoying his wealth and had a new movie come out this year. Ted Kennedy died a hero of the US Senate despite Chappaquiddick.
But somehow Seth Levine here got 97 months in prison:
SBF, Wm Rick Singer, Epstein, and so many more commit huge crimes and escape justice.
Even Madoff and G Maxwell sent to country club prisons.
Weinstein raped for decades and was protected.
Me Too movement exposed dozens of powerful members of the tribe yet none indicted.
Steve Wynn, Israel Horowitz, Dustin Hoffman, Jeffrey Tambor, Mark Halperin, Leon Wieseltier, James Toback, Al Franken, James Levine, Jeremy Piven, Woody Allen, Brett Ratner, Michael Oreskes, Bruce Weber — all have been accused in one way or another of sexual assault or harassment, primarily in the workplace.
Not one indicted.
Why do you defend this?
You don’t understand that this applies to all rich and famous people, not just the Jewish ones.
Louis CK is touring right now. Deshaun Watson is making his season debut today. Antonio Brown managed to not get arrested this week. Kevin Spacey is a free man, enjoying his wealth and had a new movie come out this year. Ted Kennedy died a hero of the US Senate despite Chappaquiddick.
But somehow Seth Levine here got 97 months in prison:
Does Stormfront issue a list of not rich and not famous Jews who have evaded Justice?
Who did Louis CK rape? Nobody. Spacey was arrested and put on trial. Not the best example of your claim that the rich and famous are above the law, Jewish or not
So Teddy K got away with a crime 60 years ago?
Who is Seth Levine? The Feinbergs? M Feldstein is not Jewish.
Two low level Jews actually have to face the justice system for their crimes and one of the Kennedy's got away with a crime @ 55+ years ago. That's your argument?
Show me all the Jews who weren’t rich or famous and evaded justice. I’m sure Fuentes has a list somewhere.
In my town, a Jewish girl from a poor family (I know them) set up her drug dealing ex to be robbed by herself and two other junkies. They murdered him. She got 10 years. The 2 others each got life.
IN Quincy MA a few summers back, a Jewish man (never named in the media) from Newton driving an SUV ran over man in a cross walk and killed him and never got arrested (he did have few bucks). The story disappeared from the media never to be seen again after one day. A reporter followed up with the Cops and was told to leave it alone.
In 2016, Brad Casler drove his car at 70 mph into a restaurant on Newton MA, killing two people and maiming several others. Not named in initial media reports and not arrested. The victims families raised Hell and he was arrested and offered a sweetheat deal (2 years). Elected to go to trial and got 4 years.
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