Is NC State Marlee Starliper Update?

How did this thread go from updates on Marlee Starliper to a bunch of elitists dragging kids for choosing state schools? You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Yeah, about that data. NC State (#179, $62,200) ranks AHEAD of the University of Florida (#235, $60,300) in average starting salary of undergraduate with a Bachelor's degree.

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IT’S VALBYMANIA!!!! 😍

If you go to a juco, make A's.

Transfer to a state school, make A's

Go to Wharton, make A's

Get hired by Morgan Stanley.

You are only known as a Morgan Stanley guy, who went to Wharton.

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So much of this is foolishness. NC State is a fine school and has a reputation of generally having genuine and nice people. Most certainly a generalization but from talking to State parents this year at the ACC XC meet it appears to be accurate. It certainly was the case when I competed 40 years ago. I went to a so-called prestige top school and found many downsides, especially for a poor kid. I would have enjoyed the choice of the availability of many practical majors, and would have done well academically at a place like State. Go where you can get the most out of the resources a school has to offer, and today, price and value really matter. By the way, I talked to Coach Henes and found her gracious, intelligent and caring. No mystery to me why recruits choose the school. Why posters here are negative is hard to understand.

This is an amazing interview, btw....for anyone who actually wants to know how Marlee is doing and her mindset on coming back from the injury (stress reaction) she's been dealing with since high school. Marlee is such a cool person, with a great personality and positive attitude and inspirational story. This interview was from 9 months ago. She seems to be very content at NC State, and talks about how much fun she has with her teammates and how grateful she is for them encouraging and uplifting her as she has worked to deal with the injuries.

What is the inspirational story?

That she was injured for basically almost two years without being able to compete. Then, when she finally competed last spring, she ended up finishing 9th in the nation in the 5k outdoors.

Why did a stress reaction keep her out 2 years? It should be less than 2 months. Did her coach try to have her run on it too soon?

Well, in the interview above she certainly did not place any blame on Coach Henes, or blaming anyone for pressuring her to run on it too soon. Henes is known for wanting to take an extremely cautious/conservative approach to injuries...as she did with Tuohy in the first 4-5 months of her freshman year. Marlee said in the interview that she also got achilles tendinitis during that almost 2 year period. And the stress reaction came back another 2 times. She said in the interview that she believes it was her own fault for it coming back, with her saying she didn't fuel/eat properly at that time.

Here's an article from her website that she wrote on her dealing with the injuries over that almost 2-year period:

marleestarliper.com

Marlee Starliper - Bringing Light to Injuries

Link:marleestarliper.com/bringing-light-to-...

Those are serious things. And those are the types of things that have always been prevalent under Henes.

Marlee sustained the stress reaction at the end of her senior year in high school. She got a faulty MRI (while a senior) at first, telling her that it was not a stress reaction. Then she continued to run on it, and it got worse...then immediately got another MRI and they got it right, and saw that it was severe and almost a fracture. That was all in high school. Not at NC State under Coach Henes.

But what about the past 2 years? A stress reaction should have been healed in 2 months? Henes has a longstanding of not handling injuries properly.

What about the last two months? The last time she raced was at the end of September and did well. She must have gotten injured again to miss the rest of the season. Anyone know what happened? Will we see her again in indoor or outdoor? It seems like she could be a good runner if she can stay uninjured.

Who knows. Could be all sorts of factors. Doesn’t mean it is the coach’s fault. Marlee is clearly prone to these injuries, going back to high school. One cause could be improper nutrition, as Marlee herself said in the interview. Whatever it is, I hope it can be corrected. I hate it for her so much, and want very badly for her to get completely healthy.

Marlee was not injury prone in HS. She never missed a season and improved every single season under her HS coach. What was weird is that she got her stress reaction after coming off a break (10 days off) she took after indoor Nationals got canceled due to Covid.

Also Marlee was a lower mileage runner than all the elite HS girls she competed against. I’m not bashing NC State but Marlee did pick the wrong program to go too. It is not a good fit for her at all. It is for Tuohy and Chmiel because they were high mileage athletes in HS. They are doing the same mileage in college that they did in HS. Marlee needed a program that had some wisdom and that did not have a survival of the fittest mentality. She should have gone with her second pick that she said was her dream school in an interview which was NAU!!!! Coach Smith is a much better coach than Henes. He would have progressed her properly and not thrown her into NC State’s philosophy on training.

Starliper needs to transfer and find a coach and program that fits her better. NC State obviously works great for many, but not Marlee.

please transfer Marlee!!!!!!!

NAU is not high mileage? 💀 pretty sure i saw a tiktok of an injured NAU runner saying she was doing 60 miles per week, lets not even start with the mileage of their mens team haha

and her masters degree in tangents, of course she will be successful !!!! thats such a rare degree to have!!