So how do you beat Jakob in a championship 5,000m?

It would take a village to beat Jakob in a 5000 championships race. We saw how to do it in a 1500, have someone almost as good as him keep the pressure down while you sit behind them and kick when the pace lags.

In a 5000, someone would have to keep pressure on the front of the race and make Jakob feel out of control. Then it would take another person who capitalizes off Jakob using energy to stay with the leader.

Remember Makloufi taking EPO then blowing the 1500 field up at 300 to go? The people who medaled are the people who didn't go with him.

No, he’s not the fittest guy in the 5000m, but his combination of speed and strength makes him extremely difficult to beat at that distance. There’s no magical strategy to beating him and it’s going to take an outstanding performance to do so. For the time being, he holds all the cards. He can’t be dropped or out kicked.

Natural talent.
Makhloufi don't need 10 threads on LRC about him.

Katir can beat Jakob in a 1500m and you will be surprised by this.

There are only two ways: 1) time trial (but unlike Tokyo which he knew was coming and agreed on doing), 2) make him use his gas earlier and accelerate more than once. He is aware that most of the time no one is going to do something unpredictable so he dafults to Mo mode. If you throw him off it's harder for him to control tactics and he will likely make a mistake.

Unless Cheptegei and Barega regain their form, I would argue JI is indeed the fittest RIGHT NOW.

Take away the water station.

There’s not going to be anything that’s going to surprise him. If some guys run 61s from the start, it won’t take long for him to figure they’re using strategy #1. Making him accelerate more than once means that other guys have to do the same thing so where’s the advantage? If anything, a variable pace would help the 1500m guy.

That description sure sounds a lot like the Florence race last year....

There is much recency bias at play in this thread. Jakob won the WC Gold at 5000m. This does not in any way render him unbeatable. He is no more unbeatable than others and this will likely be revealed in the next couple global championships. It is much easier to be the hunter than the hunted.

The advantage to #2 is Cheptegei and Kiplimo are XC monsters and should be better equipped to handle constant surging. I also don't see how a variable pace helps Jakob at all, as another poster mentioned earlier in this thread his M.O. is running steady and squeezing the pace down.

Pretty clear you aren't gonna beat him if he is in control with 1K to go. If you can make him uncomfortable you have a better chance to try and sap some of his finish. He is relatively untested in races with constant surging, might as well give it a shot rather than handing him the gold before the race.

Biased, this is a biased site.
They are dreaming their guru of the 5000m (I forgot his name) to reach the level of the white clean model "Ingerbrigsten".

Every time an African do a great prowess, they rush in insulting threads of Cheat, Drug use ... etc. If not they just forget the name and do as if nothing happened.

American distance records are still holds by a Kenyan

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List of United States records in track and field

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Yes you are biased too BUT you are correct here.

1 biased guy against 50 biased guys is a bit of justice

Yes and the worst part is their bias seems so natural to them as if it were objectivity.

I think in his current form, tricking him into making a mistake is the best strategy. If I recall correctly, there were some Farah era championship races in which the EA’s tried running the kick out of him with surges, but they never committed to it well enough and in fact Farah was too savvy to fall for it. For example, they would run 61-67 while Farah ran 63-65, losing no ground over those two laps and actually conserving energy compared with the surgers. Ingebrigtsen is a similarly savvy, patient and confident runner compared with Farah, and he’s no doubt studied those races. The way you might beat him is to surge from 1k-1500 at ~60” pace—chances are Jakob lays off the move a bit. After recovering for the next 700m, with 7 laps to go and Jakob hopefully running mid-pack if not further back, you surge again but this time with every intention of running as fast as possible from there to the finish. Jakob thinks you’re bluffing, and by the time he realizes what’s happening he’s 5 seconds and several places down with 2k to go, and you’re still running 60s.

This would be extremely difficult and result in a very fast finishing time, but there are a few guys who could pull it off on the right day, particularly if two countrymen were working in collusion. First K in 2:40. 1k-1500 in 75 (3:55 at 1500). Next 700 in 1:54 (5:49 with 7 to go). Last 7 laps in as close to 7:00 as possible, getting the jump on Jakob who thinks he’s calling your bluff (~12:49 finish time with ~7:33 for the final 3k).

Yes. We've seen Barega do some back-and-forth pacing in the Ethiopian 10,000m Trials last year. We know Kiplimo has a ridiculous engine and finish, and Cheptegei could handle Aarhus better than anyone. He can handle pace changes and surges. Aregawi can go lightning fast from early on. It's probably unfair to judge Cheptegei, who was hurt, and Kiplimo (absent) in the 5,000 discussion. I think they both have ways to win. I think the Kenyans like Krop/Kimeli and Ethiopians like Barega/Kejelcha would need to use team tactics. The Ugandans can maybe run their own races, but Cheptegei has to get by Jakob with 500 to go. Kiplimo has to position himself better than he typically does. He actually has the fastest last 100m of anyone, but is usually not in the right spot.

But the athletes need to do * something * because if they want to jog around 4,000 and let Jakob get to the front for the last 800, they're done.

This is one way to do it. One needs the requisite fitness above all.

Running the 5000m is not rocket science and Jakob would be prepared for all possible scenarios and of course he would do the same thing as Farah against some kind of fartlek strategy. The strategies against Jakob will be hammering the pace, putting on a hard surge to home from some point in the race or just hoping for the best. He’s not going to be tricked by anyone and unless he’s been gapped by a scorching pace, he’ll be right where he needs to be near the end of the race.