Taye brothers rule the Northeast !

Yeah. They both looked really smooth.

yeah, they both look to be about 24yrs. old....

you've obviously never seen them. sintayehu looks young if anything. no facial hair at all. don't be afraid to assume he's cheating just because he's better than you, though ...

In San Diego "THEY---COULD---GO---ALL--THE---WAY !!!"

mel j... wrote:

yeah, they both look to be about 24yrs. old....

And Webb looked 30 as was balding when he was in high school. What's your point?

which one is the soph? The one who got 2nd? And his brother (who won) is a sr ?

All I know is: more proof that those with East African blood are the most talented.

A black guy winning a race does not mean East African blood is more talented. It could mean many things. Plus, even if it did mean something, shouldn\'t you wait to say that until after footlocker nationals? Stupid illogical white slow runner...

mee wrote:

A black guy winning a race does not mean East African blood is more talented. It could mean many things. Plus, even if it did mean something, shouldn't you wait to say that until after footlocker nationals? Stupid illogical white slow runner...

That might not be proof but this is:

7:20.67 Daniel Komen KEN 17 05 1976 1 Rieti 01 09 1996

7:23.09 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14 09 1974 1 Bruxelles 03 09 1999

7:25.02 Ali Saïdi-Sief ALG 15 03 1978 1 Monaco 18 08 2000

7:25.09 Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18 04 1973 1 Bruxelles 28 08 1998

7:25.11 Noureddine Morceli ALG 28 02 1970 1 Monaco 02 08 1994

7:26.62 Mohammed Mourhit BEL 10 10 1970 2 Monaco 18 08 2000

7:27.18 Moses Kiptanui KEN 01 10 1970 1 Monaco 25 07 1995

7:27.59 Luke Kipkosgei KEN 27 11 1975 2 Monaco 08 08 1998

7:27.72 Eliud Kipchoge KEN 05 11 1984 1 Bruxelles 03 09 2004

7:27.75 Tom Nyariki KEN 27 09 1971 2 Monaco 10 08 1996

7:28.28 James Kwalia C'Kurui KEN 12 06 1984 2 Bruxelles 03 09 2004

7:28.41 Paul Bitok KEN 26 06 1970 3 Monaco 10 08 1996

7:28.45 Assefa Mezgebu ETH 19 06 1978 3 Monaco 08 08 1998

7:28.67 Benjamin Limo KEN 23 08 1974 1 Monaco 04 08 1999

7:28.70 Paul Tergat KEN 17 06 1969 4 Monaco 10 08 1996

7:28.78 Augustine Kiprono Choge KEN 21 01 1987 2 Doha 13 05 2005

7:28.93 Salah Hissou MAR 16 01 1972 2 Monaco 04 08 1999

7:28.94 Brahim Lahlafi MAR 15 04 1968 3 Monaco 04 08 1999

7:29.09 John Kibowen KEN 21 04 1969 3 Oslo 09 07 1998

7:29.34 Isaac Viciosa ESP 26 12 1969 4 Oslo 09 07 1998

7:29.45 Saïd Aouita MAR 02 11 1959 1 Köln 20 08 1989

7:29.92 Sileshi Sihine ETH 29 01 1983 1 Rieti 28 08 2005

7:30.09 Ismaïl Sghyr MAR 16 03 1972 2 Monaco 25 07 1995

7:30.14 Isaac Kiprono Songok KEN 25 04 1984 1 Hengelo 29 05 2005

7:30.36 Mark Carroll IRL 15 01 1972 5 Monaco 04 08 1999

12:37.35 Kenenisa Bekele ETH 13 06 1982 1 Hengelo 31 05 2004

12:39.36 Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18 04 1973 1 Helsinki 13 06 1998

12:39.74 Daniel Komen KEN 17 05 1976 1 Bruxelles 22 08 1997

12:46.53 Eliud Kipchoge KEN 05 11 1984 1 Roma 02 07 2004

12:47.04 Sileshi Sihine ETH 29 01 1983 2 Roma 02 07 2004

12:48.81 Saif Saaeed Shaheen KEN 15 10 1982 1 Ostrava 12 06 2003

12:49.28 Brahim Lahlafi MAR 15 04 1968 1 Bruxelles 25 08 2000

12:49.71 Mohammed Mourhit BEL 10 10 1970 2 Bruxelles 25 08 2000

12:49.87 Paul Tergat KEN 17 06 1969 3 Zürich 13 08 1997

12:50.24 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 14 09 1974 2 Ostrava 12 06 2003

12:50.25 Abderrahim Goumri MAR 21 05 1976 2 Bruxelles 26 08 2005

12:50.80 Salah Hissou MAR 16 01 1972 1 Roma 05 06 1996

12:50.86 Ali Saïdi-Sief ALG 15 03 1978 1 Roma 30 06 2000

12:52.29 Isaac Kiprono Songok KEN 25 04 1984 1 Roma 08 07 2005

12:52.33 Sammy Kipketer KEN 29 09 1981 2 Oslo 27 06 2003

12:52.80 Gebre-egziabher Gebremariam ETH 10 09 1984 3 Roma 08 07 2005

12:52.99 Abraham Chebii KEN 23 12 1979 4 Oslo 27 06 2003

12:53.41 Khalid Boulami MAR 07 08 1969 4 Zürich 13 08 1997

12:53.66 Augustine Kiprono Choge KEN 21 01 1987 4 Roma 08 07 2005

12:53.72 Philip Mosima KEN 01 02 1977 2 Roma 05 06 1996

12:53.84 Assefa Mezgebu ETH 19 06 1978 1 Bruxelles 28 08 1998

12:54.07 John Kibowen KEN 21 04 1969 4 Paris Saint-Denis 31 08 2003

12:54.15 Dejene Birhanu ETH 12 12 1980 3 Roma 02 07 2004

12:54.58 James Kwalia C'Kurui KEN 12 06 1984 5 Oslo 27 06 2003

12:54.70 Dieter Baumann GER 09 02 1965 5 Zürich 13 08 1997 *POSITIVE DRUG TEST

12:54.85 Moses Kiptanui KEN 01 10 1970 3 Roma 05 06 1996

12:54.99 Benjamin Limo KEN 23 08 1974 3 Paris Saint-Denis 04 07 2003

12:55.58 Abebe Dinkesa Negera ETH 06 03 1984 2 Paris Saint-Denis 01 07 2005

12:55.63 Mark Bett KEN 22 12 1976 2 Oslo 28 07 2000

12:55.76 Craig Mottram AUS 18 06 1980 2 London (CP) 30 07 2004

26:17.53 Kenenisa Bekele ETH 13 06 1982 1 Bruxelles 26 08 2005

26:22.75 Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18 04 1973 1 Hengelo 01 06 1998

26:27.85 Paul Tergat KEN 17 06 1969 1 Bruxelles 22 08 1997

26:30.03 Nicholas Kemboi KEN 25 11 1983 2 Bruxelles 05 09 2003

26:30.74 Abebe Dinkesa Negera ETH 06 03 1984 2 Hengelo 29 05 2005

26:38.08 Salah Hissou MAR 16 01 1972 1 Bruxelles 23 08 1996

26:38.76 Abdullah Ahmad Hassan QAT 04 04 1981 3 Bruxelles 05 09 2003

26:39.69 Sileshi Sihine ETH 29 01 1983 1 Hengelo 31 05 2004

26:39.77 Boniface Kiprop UGA 12 10 1985 2 Bruxelles 26 08 2005

26:41.75 Samuel Wanjiru KEN 10 11 1986 3 Bruxelles 26 08 2005

26:49.38 Sammy Kipketer KEN 29 09 1981 1 Bruxelles 30 08 2002

26:49.90 Assefa Mezgebu ETH 19 06 1978 2 Bruxelles 30 08 2002

26:50.20 Richard Limo KEN 18 11 1980 3 Bruxelles 30 08 2002

26:51.49 Charles Kamathi KEN 18 05 1978 1 Bruxelles 03 09 1999

26:52.23 William Sigei KEN 11 10 1969 1 Oslo 22 07 1994

26:52.30 Mohammed Mourhit BEL 10 10 1970 2 Bruxelles 03 09 1999

26:52.87 John Cheruiyot Korir KEN 13 12 1981 5 Bruxelles 30 08 2002

26:52.93 Mark Bett KEN 22 12 1976 6 Bruxelles 26 08 2005

26:53.73 Gebre-egziabher Gebremariam ETH 10 09 1984 2 Ostrava 08 06 2004

26:58.38 Yobes Ondieki KEN 21 02 1961 1 Oslo 10 07 1993

27:02.62 Abderrahim Goumri MAR 21 05 1976 3 Hengelo 29 05 2005

27:04.20 Abraham Chebii KEN 23 12 1979 1r1 Palo Alto, CA 04 05 2001

27:04.45 Bernard Kiprop Kipyego KEN 16 07 1986 4 Hengelo 29 05 2005

27:04.54 Felix Limo KEN 22 08 1980 2 Bruxelles 25 08 2000

27:04.70 Zersenay Tadesse ERI 08 02 1982 7 Bruxelles 26 08 2005

27:05.88 Patrick Ivuti KEN 30 06 1978 6 Bruxelles 30 08 2002

27:06.17 John Yuda Msuri TAN 09 06 1979 7 Bruxelles 30 08 2002

27:06.44 Worku Bikila ETH 06 05 1968 1 Bruxelles 25 08 1995

27:06.45 Habte Jifar ETH 29 01 1976 1 Hengelo 30 05 1999

27:06.59 Ismael Kirui KEN 20 02 1975 2 Bruxelles 25 08 1995

27:07.29 Moses Ndiema Masai KEN 01 06 1986 7 Bruxelles 03 09 2004

27:07.55 Benjamin Maiyo KEN 06 10 1978 2r1 Palo Alto, CA 04 05 2001

27:07.91 Richard Chelimo KEN 21 04 1972 1 Stockholm 05 07 1993

27:08.23 Arturo Barrios MEX 12 12 1962 1 Berlin 18 08 1989

your 5k and 10k lists support your point as the top 5-6 are all east africans, but on your 3k list, only 2 of the top 6 are east african. the top of that list is dominated by north africans (Algerians and Moroccans) of a quite different genetic background than the east africans.

also, I assume your highlighted athletes are the top marks from countries that are generally considered of European descent (European countries, North American countries, etc.)?

There's a Spaniard on your list who ran a second faster than Mark Carroll.

mel j... wrote:

yeah, they both look to be about 24yrs. old....

Have you ever met them? They are definitely high school kids that are insanely talented and quite polite to boot.

That proves nothing about genetics yet. A list with many eats africans could mean many things including training differences, mental toughness, drugs...who knows....stupid whitey thinking speed is dependant upon race when there is no real evidence there to support your hypothesis. Hello, confounding variable? Hello.

All the top kids ran faster this year. Check out the improvements.

A.Taye 33 seconds

S.Taye 40

Bateman 30

Kelsey 52

Ward 12

Koloseus 36

Wait till next year. Course records will be destroyed.

I congratulated them after the awards ceremony. They both are very nice, polite kids. They are very humble. I see them winning/finishing very high up in San Diego

mel j... wrote:

yeah, they both look to be about 24yrs. old....

Yea, because all the time I walk down the street seeing 24 year olds wearing braces.

they are from ethiopia and it is a typical ethiopian name.

they are not yankess or shall i say pervert American.

Kudos to Stirling Ince, too, for using smart training methods. All of his kids improved substantially this year!

Congratulations to them!