Carmine would still argue that Russia was 'forced' to do this by NATO because, as he explicitly stated, NATO and the US have 'surrounded' Russia with bases. Of course this position ignores the geographic facts that NATO is only to the West and Southwest of Russia and has no bases on Russia's long Southern border or long Northern border. The Eastern border has North Korea and ocean. And while Alaska and Siberia are very close to each other, Russia is as much of a threat as the US at that point on the globe.
it also ignores the fact that Russia says that border nation Finland being in NATO is no big deal and doesn't matter much to Russia.
And ignores all those bases Russia has near the USA.
Why?
Because there are none.
NATO should have been disbanded along with the Warsaw Pact when the USSR fell.
Instead, contradicting the promises made to Russia, it has continued to expand and get closer to Russia.
Upon the overthrow of the elected Ukraine govt in 2014 led by USA and Azov, the seeds of this Russian invasion this year were sewn.
it also ignores the fact that Russia says that border nation Finland being in NATO is no big deal and doesn't matter much to Russia.
And ignores all those bases Russia has near the USA.
Why?
Because there are none.
NATO should have been disbanded along with the Warsaw Pact when the USSR fell.
Instead, contradicting the promises made to Russia, it has continued to expand and get closer to Russia.
Upon the overthrow of the elected Ukraine govt in 2014 led by USA and Azov, the seeds of this Russian invasion this year were sewn.
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it also ignores the fact that Russia says that border nation Finland being in NATO is no big deal and doesn't matter much to Russia.
And ignores all those bases Russia has near the USA.
Why?
Because there are none.
NATO should have been disbanded along with the Warsaw Pact when the USSR fell.
Instead, contradicting the promises made to Russia, it has continued to expand and get closer to Russia.
Upon the overthrow of the elected Ukraine govt in 2014 led by USA and Azov, the seeds of this Russian invasion this year were sewn.
That is because the point of my post was that you have repeatedly misrepresented the bases of the US and its allies vis a vis Russia. You have used the term "surrounded" and the term "encircled". Neither is factually correct. Most of us adults know that a deliberately incorrect statement is a lie, and that makes you a liar.
And maybe the reason that so many countries to the west and southwest of Russia would rather have US bases and security promises than play nice with Russia is that Russia has proved itself to be an avaricious, murderous, thieving, aggressive neighbor. And that means Russia has sown the seeds of this conflict.
And ignores all those bases Russia has near the USA.
Why?
Because there are none.
NATO should have been disbanded along with the Warsaw Pact when the USSR fell.
Instead, contradicting the promises made to Russia, it has continued to expand and get closer to Russia.
Upon the overthrow of the elected Ukraine govt in 2014 led by USA and Azov, the seeds of this Russian invasion this year were sewn.
That is because the point of my post was that you have repeatedly misrepresented the bases of the US and its allies vis a vis Russia. You have used the term "surrounded" and the term "encircled". Neither is factually correct. Most of us adults know that a deliberately incorrect statement is a lie, and that makes you a liar.
And maybe the reason that so many countries to the west and southwest of Russia would rather have US bases and security promises than play nice with Russia is that Russia has proved itself to be an avaricious, murderous, thieving, aggressive neighbor. And that means Russia has sown the seeds of this conflict.
Russia is nothing of a murderous, thieving, aggressive entity compared to the US. With it's tentacles around the world. In conjunction with some Euro powers has the rest of Europe in bondage. With many other 3rd world countries in its servitude. This creature has got to go down. Thank goodness for the brics. They're doing very well so far. Thank Russia, China, India, Iran, and Brazil. Turkey is playing this well too.
That is because the point of my post was that you have repeatedly misrepresented the bases of the US and its allies vis a vis Russia. You have used the term "surrounded" and the term "encircled". Neither is factually correct. Most of us adults know that a deliberately incorrect statement is a lie, and that makes you a liar.
And maybe the reason that so many countries to the west and southwest of Russia would rather have US bases and security promises than play nice with Russia is that Russia has proved itself to be an avaricious, murderous, thieving, aggressive neighbor. And that means Russia has sown the seeds of this conflict.
Russia is nothing of a murderous, thieving, aggressive entity compared to the US. With it's tentacles around the world. In conjunction with some Euro powers has the rest of Europe in bondage. With many other 3rd world countries in its servitude. This creature has got to go down. Thank goodness for the brics. They're doing very well so far. Thank Russia, China, India, Iran, and Brazil. Turkey is playing this well too.
Such anger. Did an American run over your dog?
I’m betting that America has done great things for whatever sh!thole country you live in. Even if it’s Russia. Russia wouldn’t even exist without Allied support in WW2. In retrospect, maybe we made the wrong decision helping Russia. But few knew what a scumbag country Russia would become.
That is because the point of my post was that you have repeatedly misrepresented the bases of the US and its allies vis a vis Russia. You have used the term "surrounded" and the term "encircled". Neither is factually correct. Most of us adults know that a deliberately incorrect statement is a lie, and that makes you a liar.
And maybe the reason that so many countries to the west and southwest of Russia would rather have US bases and security promises than play nice with Russia is that Russia has proved itself to be an avaricious, murderous, thieving, aggressive neighbor. And that means Russia has sown the seeds of this conflict.
Russia is nothing of a murderous, thieving, aggressive entity compared to the US. With it's tentacles around the world. In conjunction with some Euro powers has the rest of Europe in bondage. With many other 3rd world countries in its servitude. This creature has got to go down. Thank goodness for the brics. They're doing very well so far. Thank Russia, China, India, Iran, and Brazil. Turkey is playing this well too.
I'll wait for an English translation or your post to respond.
Russia is nothing of a murderous, thieving, aggressive entity compared to the US. With it's tentacles around the world. In conjunction with some Euro powers has the rest of Europe in bondage. With many other 3rd world countries in its servitude. This creature has got to go down. Thank goodness for the brics. They're doing very well so far. Thank Russia, China, India, Iran, and Brazil. Turkey is playing this well too.
I'll wait for an English translation or your post to respond.
I'll wait for a more coherent one from you. Im sure I'll be waiting a long time though
Russia is nothing of a murderous, thieving, aggressive entity compared to the US. With it's tentacles around the world. In conjunction with some Euro powers has the rest of Europe in bondage. With many other 3rd world countries in its servitude. This creature has got to go down. Thank goodness for the brics. They're doing very well so far. Thank Russia, China, India, Iran, and Brazil. Turkey is playing this well too.
Such anger. Did an American run over your dog?
I’m betting that America has done great things for whatever sh!thole country you live in. Even if it’s Russia. Russia wouldn’t even exist without Allied support in WW2. In retrospect, maybe we made the wrong decision helping Russia. But few knew what a scumbag country Russia would become.
Newsflash. If Russia didn't sacrifice millions and defeat the Nazis you'd be speaking German. Allied support for Russia during WW2?? Lol. There is one scumbag country...due to the type of leadership that's infested it...can you guess which one?
And ignores all those bases Russia has near the USA.
Why?
Because there are none.
NATO should have been disbanded along with the Warsaw Pact when the USSR fell.
Instead, contradicting the promises made to Russia, it has continued to expand and get closer to Russia.
Upon the overthrow of the elected Ukraine govt in 2014 led by USA and Azov, the seeds of this Russian invasion this year were sewn.
That is because the point of my post was that you have repeatedly misrepresented the bases of the US and its allies vis a vis Russia. You have used the term "surrounded" and the term "encircled". Neither is factually correct. Most of us adults know that a deliberately incorrect statement is a lie, and that makes you a liar.
And maybe the reason that so many countries to the west and southwest of Russia would rather have US bases and security promises than play nice with Russia is that Russia has proved itself to be an avaricious, murderous, thieving, aggressive neighbor. And that means Russia has sown the seeds of this conflict.
Carmine is an internet punching bag. As someone else noted, he’s reverse trolled now. Americans goad/troll him up to get him to say more idiotic conspiratorial stuff, so we can insult and humiliate him and his America-hating fringe movement.
Russia doesn’t have any military bases around the world, because they have no allies other than a few scattered failed states (Cuba, Venezuela, Syria), and because Russia is too weak to project such forward power. They can’t even move a platoon across a river 30 miles from their own border. They are absolutely incapable of maintaining military power anywhere, much less at a distance.
American military bases and troops are stationed around the world at the invitation and with the permission of the host countries. America has strong relationships with democracies around the globe. Russia does not, never has and never will now. Russia is an outcast for the duration of its probably short existence (5-10 years). Everyone, even other authoritarian countries like China, will be glad when this diseased, unhinged country falls apart and is occupied and de-Russiafied.
I’m betting that America has done great things for whatever sh!thole country you live in. Even if it’s Russia. Russia wouldn’t even exist without Allied support in WW2. In retrospect, maybe we made the wrong decision helping Russia. But few knew what a scumbag country Russia would become.
Newsflash. If Russia didn't sacrifice millions and defeat the Nazis you'd be speaking German. Allied support for Russia during WW2?? Lol. There is one scumbag country...due to the type of leadership that's infested it...can you guess which one?
Note well: a country that loses millions of people at war…doesn’t make them good at anything but getting its people killed. USSR having such horrendous death tolls in ww2 tells you more about its low nationing ability than anything else. It’s not a good thing that should be celebrated.
I'll wait for an English translation or your post to respond.
I'll wait for a more coherent one from you. Im sure I'll be waiting a long time though
All the major countries, including the United States, Russia and China have "tentacles" (i.e. commercial and political relationships) in other countries. You allege that the US has some European countries in "bondage" and countries elsewhere in "servitude", but those are just value judgments without facts offered to support them. Who is in bondage and who is trapped in servitude?
But unlike Russia, in modern history (1900 and thereafter) the United States has not intervened militarily in any country with the intent or result of gaining territory. Compare that to Russia in just the past few decades. The proof is in the attitude of many former Soviet bloc nations -- they would rather associate with Western Europe and rely on NATO's joint defense agreement that turn to Russia. What does that say about which side they think is more likely to steal their country?
I’m betting that America has done great things for whatever sh!thole country you live in. Even if it’s Russia. Russia wouldn’t even exist without Allied support in WW2. In retrospect, maybe we made the wrong decision helping Russia. But few knew what a scumbag country Russia would become.
Newsflash. If Russia didn't sacrifice millions and defeat the Nazis you'd be speaking German. Allied support for Russia during WW2?? Lol. There is one scumbag country...due to the type of leadership that's infested it...can you guess which one?
Pretty lame, Milhouse. I don’t think even Russians have that baseless, stupid take on WW2 history. Russians do think (pretend) that getting blown up by the millions is somehow a great military tactic, but even Russians acknowledge all the $$$$$$ and massive supplies they were gifted in WW2. Unlike you, even Russians know who’d be speaking German and who wouldn’t without massive Allied support.
And you dodged revealing the sh!thole country you live in. I’ll bet you guys have benefitted greatly from American support. Be courageous and name the sh!thole country you live in and we can discuss.
it also ignores the fact that Russia says that border nation Finland being in NATO is no big deal and doesn't matter much to Russia.
And ignores all those bases Russia has near the USA.
Why?
Because there are none.
NATO should have been disbanded along with the Warsaw Pact when the USSR fell.
Instead, contradicting the promises made to Russia, it has continued to expand and get closer to Russia.
Upon the overthrow of the elected Ukraine govt in 2014 led by USA and Azov, the seeds of this Russian invasion this year were sewn.
Oh man! Now the US and Azov worked together to overthrow the Ukrainian government? The Azov battalion was founded in May, 2014 - several months after Yanukovych fled to Russia. Once again Carmine, you seem to be lying to cover up for the fact that the truth is not on your side.
The best thing is that Russia’s invasion is likely to cause NATO to expand further, and all Russia can do is pout about and issue meaningless threats like the sad pathetic losers that Carmine aspires to be.
Newsflash. If Russia didn't sacrifice millions and defeat the Nazis you'd be speaking German. Allied support for Russia during WW2?? Lol. There is one scumbag country...due to the type of leadership that's infested it...can you guess which one?
Pretty lame, Milhouse. I don’t think even Russians have that baseless, stupid take on WW2 history. Russians do think (pretend) that getting blown up by the millions is somehow a great military tactic, but even Russians acknowledge all the $$ and massive supplies they were gifted in WW2. Unlike you, even Russians know who’d be speaking German and who wouldn’t without massive Allied support.
And you dodged revealing the sh!thole country you live in. I’ll bet you guys have benefitted greatly from American support. Be courageous and name the sh!thole country you live in and we can discuss.
What sort of woke teachings are they giving in schools now? Even old timers talked about Russia turning the tide of WW2. US came in when things had already gone south for the Nazis. The Nazis lost millions as well in this. Was that their tactic? Lol
If Germany had not invaded Russia they would have steamrolled over everyone. You ungrateful baffoon.
What a fool. Russia hadn't even militarized properly before the war. Germany was preparing for a very long time. It was incredible for the Russians to be able to produce so much in so short a time. Thank them for you not speaking German. But you still turned out to live in a dystopian state. You're right about shythole. Your kind had turned this once great country into a true Shythole. Thanks for that
Newsflash. If Russia didn't sacrifice millions and defeat the Nazis you'd be speaking German. Allied support for Russia during WW2?? Lol. There is one scumbag country...due to the type of leadership that's infested it...can you guess which one?
Pretty lame, Milhouse. I don’t think even Russians have that baseless, stupid take on WW2 history. Russians do think (pretend) that getting blown up by the millions is somehow a great military tactic, but even Russians acknowledge all the $$ and massive supplies they were gifted in WW2. Unlike you, even Russians know who’d be speaking German and who wouldn’t without massive Allied support.
And you dodged revealing the sh!thole country you live in. I’ll bet you guys have benefitted greatly from American support. Be courageous and name the sh!thole country you live in and we can discuss.
He’s probably posting from a computer or phone that uses an operating system designed by an American company.
I'll wait for a more coherent one from you. Im sure I'll be waiting a long time though
All the major countries, including the United States, Russia and China have "tentacles" (i.e. commercial and political relationships) in other countries. You allege that the US has some European countries in "bondage" and countries elsewhere in "servitude", but those are just value judgments without facts offered to support them. Who is in bondage and who is trapped in servitude?
But unlike Russia, in modern history (1900 and thereafter) the United States has not intervened militarily in any country with the intent or result of gaining territory. Compare that to Russia in just the past few decades. The proof is in the attitude of many former Soviet bloc nations -- they would rather associate with Western Europe and rely on NATO's joint defense agreement that turn to Russia. What does that say about which side they think is more likely to steal their country?
Jeezus Christ this is so incoherent and upside down I don't even know where to start. Since 1900? Do you think Hawaii wanted to be taken over by the US??? Do you think a country has to intervene militarily for it to be a wrong? US destruction of a myriad of countries and killing millions is ok as long as they didn't take actual territory?? Um, as if no one knows parts of Ukraine were Russian?? If Russia takes eastern Ukraine it's taking it's territory back. Rightly so after the scumbag US left Ukrainian leadership broke the Minsk agreement and bombed, killed thousands of Russians in Donbas for 8 friggin years. Yeah, I think Russia has a right. Which Soviet block nations want to associate with the West? Belarus? Serbia? Kazakhstan? Uzbekistan? Ah, you mean the corrupted countries like Ukraine which the US led coup overthrew a legitimate govt and install their own puppet?? And you are wondering why that leadership is so close to the US? Do their every bidding? Gtfo
Pretty lame, Milhouse. I don’t think even Russians have that baseless, stupid take on WW2 history. Russians do think (pretend) that getting blown up by the millions is somehow a great military tactic, but even Russians acknowledge all the $ and massive supplies they were gifted in WW2. Unlike you, even Russians know who’d be speaking German and who wouldn’t without massive Allied support.
And you dodged revealing the sh!thole country you live in. I’ll bet you guys have benefitted greatly from American support. Be courageous and name the sh!thole country you live in and we can discuss.
What sort of woke teachings are they giving in schools now? Even old timers talked about Russia turning the tide of WW2. US came in when things had already gone south for the Nazis. The Nazis lost millions as well in this. Was that their tactic? Lol
If Germany had not invaded Russia they would have steamrolled over everyone. You ungrateful baffoon.
What a fool. Russia hadn't even militarized properly before the war. Germany was preparing for a very long time. It was incredible for the Russians to be able to produce so much in so short a time. Thank them for you not speaking German. But you still turned out to live in a dystopian state. You're right about shythole. Your kind had turned this once great country into a true Shythole. Thanks for that
Russia didn’t produce anything except dead soldiers. They were gifted pretty much all the working equipment they had by the Allies. You can find the mind-blowing amount of equipment and supplies and support given to Russia online. Read the lists and ask yourself what kind of useless country could accept all that support and still get themselves blown up by the millions.
Why won’t you reveal what country you live in? Is it that embarrassing? Just be courageous and post it. Then we can evaluate how much your country has benefitted from American support.
Newsflash. If Russia didn't sacrifice millions and defeat the Nazis you'd be speaking German. Allied support for Russia during WW2?? Lol. There is one scumbag country...due to the type of leadership that's infested it...can you guess which one?
Note well: a country that loses millions of people at war…doesn’t make them good at anything but getting its people killed. USSR having such horrendous death tolls in ww2 tells you more about its low nationing ability than anything else. It’s not a good thing that should be celebrated.
I assume you would have preferred they don't even bother to fight and perhaps even joined the Nazis? Right, their fight and victory should not be celebrated.