Official Russia vs Ukraine War Thread

Stupid, fake scare tactics amplified by sycophantic media. "Oh no, Russia gonna use nukes!" Whatever.

Give it up. Ukraine lost. Stop the bleeding. The loss of blood and treasure in this easily-avoidable war is beyond disgusting.

Also, Putin and Medvedev have threatened the use of nuclear weapons, so there's that.

The only reason for you to post this and the only reason for United States and other N.A.T.O. countries to bring this up: You, U.S. M.I.C. and rest of N.A.T.O. are trying to mentally condition the world for a U.S. nuclear first strike on Russia. You are posting your justification for a U.S./N.A.T.O. nuclear first strike.

Or, U.S. and the rest of N.A.T.O. plan on an all out conventional weapon attack on Russia as Russian forces close in on Kiev.

U.S. and the rest of N.A.T.O. want Russia to appear insane if Russia uses tactical nukes to defend themselves.

I was going to say that nitwit's "blame the media" argument doesn't exactly work when the Kremlin, Russian state media, Medvedev and a dozen other high ranking Russian psychos threaten to use nuclear weapons on the US, UK, and other NATO countries about once a week. Russia is an irrational and dangerous enemy of the free world. We would be insane not to plan for Russia's plans to use nuclear weapons. What kind of clown would dismiss Russia's threats as scare tactics? Total retards, I guess.

If they do so, it's to "save lives". Just like the US did in Japan :)

From your first link:

A Moscow court has sentenced a student to 10 days in jail after he renamed his wifi network with a pro-Kyiv slogan during the military offensive in Ukraine, the Ria-Novosti news agency reported on Saturday. The student at Moscow State University replaced the name of the network from his wifi router with Slava Ukraini, meaning ‘Glory to Ukraine’, the rallying cry of Ukraine forces. The court found him guilty of a “public demonstration of Nazi symbolics … or symbols of extremist organisations,” Ria-Novosti said.

By "Nazi" Russia means anyone who believes in Ukraine's right to autonomy.

As always, no one is opposed to a negotiated settlement in principle, but calling for a settlement without some defining some mutually acceptable settlement terms is empty rhetoric. We see from the above that Russia has literally criminalized the concept of Ukrainian autonomy and that's an obvious non-starter for Ukraine.

The world would be a much better place without Russia (and their treasonous trump and commie loving supporters) in it.

Chechnya, Transnistria, Ukraine, Poland, Finland, Circassia, and so many current and former nations have been subjected to their genocide. Russian secret police were throwing doctors out of hospital windows during the pandemic due to criticizing the covid response. Its nuts.

Reminds me of that homelander scene where the obvious trump supporters cheer him lasering some guy’s heads off. Are most republicans so angry with their fat little bodies and difficult, uneducated lives that they cheer endless violence because it gives life meaning?

Explains the whole republican gun thing too. “i’ll kill your family if you ever try and take my guns!” you know they are just itching for an excuse. And this is coming from a guy who hunts every year up here in Alaska and has been shooting guns since I was 6.

You've gone way off on a tangent there

Thinks Ukraine should negotiate

Ukraine is getting smoked.

Ukraine should definitely negotiate. But if the commie lovers here in the US had been dealt with, and Biden or Trump had been serious about helping Ukraine, this war was so easily winnable. That’s what’s frustrating. The massive counterattack in 2022 where Ukraine annihilated the VDV spetznaz reserves near Kherson, encircled and destroyed the 1st Tank Guards division (the best tanker unit Russia had, meant to counter NATO incursions that have never happened) was incredible. They recaptured around 15% if the country in a matter if weeks, and pushed over a quarter million russian troops back. Now imagine if that same counteroffensive had 1,000 M1A1 Abrams supporting it (which is less than 1/8 out inventory of them! we could send 4,000 if we wanted!) and a few hundred HIMARS systems instead of 4. They probably could have pushed on Moscow, considering 25,000 Wagner mercenaries nearly did.

Point being, yes it is time to negotiate, but at no fault to the Ukrainians. The USA failed them. Europe has done way more than we have relative to our respective inventories. There has pretty much never been a time where a country 10x smaller has beaten a nuclear power in a conventional land war, but ukraine has come close. Even Circassia couldn’t hold off the Russians forever, and it ended with the nation being destroyed and 98% of Circassians being genocided.

The time for Ukraine to negotiate was fall, 2021 to maybe mid-to-late 2022. Ukraine is nearly out of fighting-age men. It does not matter how much money U.S. and rest of N.A.T.O. provide Ukraine, German tank crews will not fight for Ukraine; U.S. tank crews will not fight for Ukraine. Same for all other German combat personnel. U.S. military police and U.S. infantrymen are there in Ukraine to guard our stuff from Ukrainian gangsters. Time to negotiate? What a joke! Can President Zelenksy get a 2 1/2 acre estate in Miami Beach or does President Zelensky have to settle for 1/4 acre in Orlando, Florida? Putin & Russia want an unconditional surrender from Zelensky & Ukraine. What does Zelensky have to offer? Eventually, Russia will rename Ukraine west Russia.

What are you going off about Communism? What does that have to do with this conflict?

Ukraine never had a chance. Where did you study military science?

Zelensky and the Greek prime minister were actually in Odessa last week, one of many of Zelensky’s trips near the front lines. Odessa has been one of the toughest cities against Russian attack, and has never been captured since the conflict began despite multiple amphibious assaults. Odessa launches most of the drone attacks that have sunk 23 russian warships in two years, and the Russian flagship the Moskova in 2022 . Russian missiles actually targeted the Greek convoy and were shot down by ukrainian air defenses- they moved a Patriot battery closer to the front lines to protect the retreat from Avdiivka, hence the 13 Russian aircraft shot down last month, all independently verified by the Institute for the Study of War.

Russian nazis lie so much.

There is a common Ukrainian joke going back centuries- how do you know if a Russian is lying?

If their mouth is open! LOL

Your response to me does not include why you were stating Communism.

You rattling of battlefield successes does not explain where you were formally taught military science.

You have no response regarding Germany and U.S. troops refusal to fight for Ukraine.

You have no response regarding Ukraine running out of fighting-age men. Are you younger than age 90? If so, why aren't you volunteering as a combat medic or ambulance driver or fuel truck driver or any necessary job for the war effort?

This is why VVP started his Tucker interview with a looooong history lesson, to explain for good and all that there is no such thing as "Ukraine." The name literally means "on the edge" or "at the border." It's always been Russia's western borderland, with some areas of encroachment in the by Poland and others. The Ukrainian language is a rootless creole of Russian and these encroaching languages.

And if you study up on your recent history, the new oblasts are Novorossiya, New Russia. Though they all understand it's always been Russia. Odessa, Kharkov, Krivoi Rog, these are Russian cities. It was a bureaucratic accident that a new SSR was created around Kiev at all.

So this poster babbling about Communists is a real farter. It was Communists who invented the Ukrainian pseudo-state in the first place.

Russian rebel units of the RUSVOL and Freedom Legion broke through russian border defenses early this morning and have captured much of the Russian city of Belogrod. Initial videos showed ambushes on russian border guard camps with entire russian units being slaughtered by GUR Unit 13 sharpshooters without firing a shot in return. The russian rebels have been mocking them on social media all night with videos of them running after dropping their weapons. Seems russians are only brave with a 10-1 manpower advantage.