The smartest thing Joe Rogan can do right now…

Jogger262 wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Whoa, brother! No, no, no!

1) Trump inherited several hundred million dollars. Had he simply invested that money in an index fund, he would be worth more today than he is. He is widely considered one of the worst businessmen in America. 

Link:www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/...

2) Trump paid someone to take his SATs to get into UPenn. Do note that he received a Bachelor's Degree from there, and he has no graduate degree. Did he pay people to do his work at school for him? Likely. His grades are a secret, but he did not graduate with any kind of honors whatsoever.

3) One of Trump's college professors called him the dumbest student he had ever seen.

4) Trump is not smart. He is not a savvy businessman. Forbes had him at $3.1 billion net worth at the beginning of his presidency and now has him at $2.5 billion net worth. He lost that much value during a time when everyone and their brother increased their net worth by a lot?

Trump is a loser by any measure.

The number I’ve seen is $60M, which converts to $413M in today’s dollars. If true, you can’t just simply say put it in the S&P and you’d be richer today. He’s been spending huge amounts of money of a lavish lifestyle including private jets with Trump logo on the side. Not a Lear jet, but a commercial size Boeing or Airbus. The costs to run those even in the 80s and 90s would eat away at the $60M very quickly. 

You obviously don’t like him, and I get it. How much did he pay in each divorce? How many homes did he give away? To say he’s not a good businessman because he could have dumped it all in the S&P is Monday morning quarterbacking at best and misleading at worst. The Forbes estimates are very unreliable, especially when a lot of the holdings are not public and easily valued. 

Enough about Trump for me. I hope he doesn’t run in 2024. But I won’t pretend like he’s a clueless idiot that paid his way all the way to the highest office in the country. 

Flagpole wrote:

Jogger262 wrote:I’m no Trump expert but he started with money and grew it considerably with real estate investing. It’s not exactly rocket science, but he did graduate from Wharton, so he can’t be as dumb as the left portrays. He might be egotistical and crazy, but not dumb. He’s definitely had his share of business failures, and what the average person doesn’t get is that it’s often better to file Chapter 11 then to see things through and let money continue to bleed. If you haven’t failed in business you probably haven’t succeeded either. I’m no Trump fan, but I also don’t see any massive changes for the better since he left office. I’m sure he would not sit down with Rogan unless scripted and limited to an hour. Rogan probably has no interest in that, and he’s not even a Trump supporter. Im fairly certain he did not vote for Trump. 

Whoa, brother! No, no, no!1) Trump inherited several hundred million dollars. Had he simply invested that money in an index fund, he would be worth more today than he is. He is widely considered one of the worst businessmen in America. 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/as-a-businessman-trump-was-the-biggest-loser-of-all2

) Trump paid someone to take his SATs to get into UPenn. Do note that he received a Bachelor's Degree from there, and he has no graduate degree. Did he pay people to do his work at school for him? Likely. His grades are a secret, but he did not graduate with any kind of honors whatsoever.3) One of Trump's college professors called him the dumbest student he had ever seen.4) Trump is not smart. He is not a savvy businessman. Forbes had him at $3.1 billion net worth at the beginning of his presidency and now has him at $2.5 billion net worth. He lost that much value during a time when everyone and their brother increased their net worth by a lot?Trump is a loser by any measure.

Aouita 84 wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Whoa, brother! No, no, no!1) Trump inherited several hundred million dollars. Had he simply invested that money in an index fund, he would be worth more today than he is. He is widely considered one of the worst businessmen in America. 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/as-a-businessman-trump-was-the-biggest-loser-of-all2

) Trump paid someone to take his SATs to get into UPenn. Do note that he received a Bachelor's Degree from there, and he has no graduate degree. Did he pay people to do his work at school for him? Likely. His grades are a secret, but he did not graduate with any kind of honors whatsoever.3) One of Trump's college professors called him the dumbest student he had ever seen.4) Trump is not smart. He is not a savvy businessman. Forbes had him at $3.1 billion net worth at the beginning of his presidency and now has him at $2.5 billion net worth. He lost that much value during a time when everyone and their brother increased their net worth by a lot?Trump is a loser by any measure.

You may be correct.

So, if Trump is a "Loser", where does that put Old Man Joe Biden? Easily, the most incompetent POTUS ever!...and will not finish out his presidency. I could give two sh^ts about Trump's worth. How did he run the country in his 4 years in office? Energy prices?, Inflation?, Border security?, Covid?, Supply chain?, Foreign policy?

Just Sayin'

Flagpole wrote:

Jogger262 wrote:

The number I’ve seen is $60M, which converts to $413M in today’s dollars. If true, you can’t just simply say put it in the S&P and you’d be richer today. He’s been spending huge amounts of money of a lavish lifestyle including private jets with Trump logo on the side. Not a Lear jet, but a commercial size Boeing or Airbus. The costs to run those even in the 80s and 90s would eat away at the $60M very quickly. 

You obviously don’t like him, and I get it. How much did he pay in each divorce? How many homes did he give away? To say he’s not a good businessman because he could have dumped it all in the S&P is Monday morning quarterbacking at best and misleading at worst. The Forbes estimates are very unreliable, especially when a lot of the holdings are not public and easily valued. 

Enough about Trump for me. I hope he doesn’t run in 2024. But I won’t pretend like he’s a clueless idiot that paid his way all the way to the highest office in the country. 

The only really correct thing you said there is that the Forbes list isn't that reliable...and the reason it isn't? They rely heavily on SELF REPORTING. Trump has a LONG history of greatly inflating his net worth.

The fact that he's not a good businessman is not just my opinion. That has been widely known in NYC circles forever, but we have had a ton of information on this since he became President. The ONLY thing he's good as is getting rubes to believe he's smart or talented. He's not.

Lagpole wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Joe Biden is very competent. You are wrong. There is no evidence he will not finish his presidency. He's old, so you never know what might happen, but he's not in poor health.Your negatives are all BS and not attributable to Biden policies in any way. With regard to COVID and the Supply Chain, we are getting better all the time. Foreign policy is MUCH better than under Trump. Trump was an authoritarian. Don't be a fool.

LOL. I doubt you could type that with a straight face. "Competent" is one of the last words that come to mind when I think of Biden. You want to bring up foreign policy? Seriously? Maybe you are stricken with the same dementia which afflicts Biden. How could you possibly forget Afghanistan? What a terrible blight on America and on his presidency. Easily the most disastrous foreign policy move made by any president during my (long) lifetime. Russia is licking its lips on the Ukrainian border knowing that the hollow shell at our helm won't do squat.

Unfathomably incompetent and WEAK is Joe Biden.

Jogger262 wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

The only really correct thing you said there is that the Forbes list isn't that reliable...and the reason it isn't? They rely heavily on SELF REPORTING. Trump has a LONG history of greatly inflating his net worth.

The fact that he's not a good businessman is not just my opinion. That has been widely known in NYC circles forever, but we have had a ton of information on this since he became President. The ONLY thing he's good as is getting rubes to believe he's smart or talented. He's not.

Does he have a high IQ? I don’t know, but Trump has amazing presence, albeit polarizing. I’ve never really liked the guy, but he has some great moments. 

Anyway, you seem like a good dude, Flagpole, so I respect your opinion. But it is opinion. Maybe watch a little less MSNBC and a little bit of differing viewpoint once in a while. Although it pains me to watch MSNBC (or CNN these days), I do it and often see the other side as valid points. I see right through the Fox News narrative and I’m not registered for either major party.