marriage is hell. why haven't we figured out an alternative?

mnf wrote:

BREAKING: Incels and man that must pay for sex don’t understand marriage.

Yeah I agree. But don't almost all men pay for sex, either directly or indirectly? Let's be honest, a broke guy doesn't get much of a chance with a high value woman. Get your funds up, buddy. Then maybe you wouldn't have such animosity towards people who aren't cheap and actually open their wallet.

bigopera wrote:

I don't know a single person in a happy marriage.

You wouldn't be happy single or married. Let's face it.

A lot of people on this site are married to the idea they matter. Sadly, nobody really cares about your running or empty thoughts. If they did you wouldn’t be here trying to find an audience.

honest al wrote:

A lot of people on this site are married to the idea they matter. Sadly, nobody really cares about your running or empty thoughts. If they did you wouldn’t be here trying to find an audience.

Yeah that's why there's social media, so people who haven't accomplished anything of substance can manufacture dopamine and validation. You're right, with 10 billion people in the world, everyone is just another number in the grand scheme of things. The world will move on without any individual.

STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""-""""--'-"--^' wrote:

I totally understand women glorifying it and influencing their children with the glorification of marriage. However it is such an antiquated institution. I'd consider many men that get married to be SIMPING simply by getting married. Then they want to cheat and so does their wife, contrary to their vows. Makes no sense at all for most men. If I wanted to gamble half my money and assets, I'd much rather put it on a football game than on a woman. At least I'd have the shot to make money rather than either losing half or remaining the same and getting the post nuptial shutoff while I'm at it.

classic and fully expected response

lrcincelsrus

You're implying that I'm an incel? That's like calling Elon Musk broke. That's like calling LeBron James a ymca dad bod level basketball player. Buddy, you would have to live your life 10000x over to match my kill count. But since you're trying to label me (as something I'm not), who and what exactly are you? I'm willing to meet face to face and I'd bet you're not since you act like that hiding behind a screen.

Steve, nobody is impressed that you made a couple million in crypto. You sounds like a miserable sap in pretty much everything you talk about. Your "opinions" are poorly conceived on matters extending from basic finance to politics to relationships.

You, my friend, are an idiot.

highhoppingworm wrote:

Steve, nobody is impressed that you made a couple million in crypto. You sounds like a miserable sap in pretty much everything you talk about. Your "opinions" are poorly conceived on matters extending from basic finance to politics to relationships.

You, my friend, are an idiot.

You're entitled to your opinion. I'm not miserable at all. I'm just trying to awaken others to the oppression and injustices of the world. That's doing my due diligence.

STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""-""""--'-"--^' wrote:

mnf wrote:

BREAKING: Incels and man that must pay for sex don’t understand marriage.

Yeah I agree. But don't almost all men pay for sex, either directly or indirectly? Let's be honest, a broke guy doesn't get much of a chance with a high value woman. Get your funds up, buddy. Then maybe you wouldn't have such animosity towards people who aren't cheap and actually open their wallet.

If the broke guy has enough status it doesn’t matter. Money factors in to status but it isn’t everything. That includes good looks, height, build. Short bald guy needs a crap ton of money or some status like being a doctor where as a hot boy toy could get any sugar momma. Lead singer of a band might be broke, but his high status makes him desirable.

So no, money is only necessary when you are undesirable otherwise. Keep paying for hookers though and complaining that you don’t understand marriage.

STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""-""""--'-"--^' wrote:

highhoppingworm wrote:

Steve, nobody is impressed that you made a couple million in crypto. You sounds like a miserable sap in pretty much everything you talk about. Your "opinions" are poorly conceived on matters extending from basic finance to politics to relationships.

You, my friend, are an idiot.

You're entitled to your opinion. I'm not miserable at all. I'm just trying to awaken others to the oppression and injustices of the world. That's doing my due diligence.

OK so in this situation you are trying to awaken everyone to your perception that the institution of marriage (mind you have no first hand experience with it) is unjust and oppressive? Good luck with that.

mount in wrote:

Honest response:

The wisdom of marriage is lost on the self-centered. In a world focused on "me time" and "self care" it doesn't compute well. It's an institution designed to compel individuals to consider the well-being of others (especially when kids enter the picture) above one's self. The lesson kicks in when you discover, ironically, that your selfless sacrifices generate a significantly more fulfilling and joyful existence for yourself.

This is the best response!!!

Colby wrote:

mount in wrote:

Honest response:

The wisdom of marriage is lost on the self-centered. In a world focused on "me time" and "self care" it doesn't compute well. It's an institution designed to compel individuals to consider the well-being of others (especially when kids enter the picture) above one's self. The lesson kicks in when you discover, ironically, that your selfless sacrifices generate a significantly more fulfilling and joyful existence for yourself.

This is the best response!!!

Agree. Great post.

Been with my wife for over 20 years. I couldn't imagine being back in the dating scene. I can 100% be myself with my wife and don't have to pretend to like movies, restaurants, bands, etc. just to have a chance at getting some action. Being in a perpetual state of dating is a horrible way to live. Why in the world would anyone want to spend all their time trying to compete for a woman's attention when you can get married and be done with that? Long term relationships do require sacrifices, but that is just a part of growing up. You don't get what you want whenever you want it. That is for little kids, not adults.

STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""-""""--'-"--^' wrote:

highhoppingworm wrote:

Steve, nobody is impressed that you made a couple million in crypto. You sounds like a miserable sap in pretty much everything you talk about. Your "opinions" are poorly conceived on matters extending from basic finance to politics to relationships.

You, my friend, are an idiot.

You're entitled to your opinion. I'm not miserable at all. I'm just trying to awaken others to the oppression and injustices of the world. That's doing my due diligence.

Nobody who spends as much time as you do on any social media site such as letsrun is happy. Like, literally the only person more miserable than you is Unkle.

so it goes wrote:

You need to get over your hate of women.

I’m in a happy marriage. I’m a 35F and my husband is 40.

We do not have children.

My salary is $240k and his is $70k.

Our marriage is predicated upon our love and commitment to one another and that is that. I have no ulterior motives or financial skin in the game....although I deeply respect parenting and those who choose to have kids.

Anyway, yeah, happy marriages exist.

Mine is also happy, we're in our 30's so we've got a long ways to go. But what we want in life and how we live our lives is close enough and we are building our life together in agreement and we enjoy doing things together, we're attracted to each other. Seems like a pretty happy marriage to me. I think people in an unhappy marriage all probably got married way too soon, like age 22 or 23 right out of college. So much changing happens to a person soon after college and people change, wait until you're in your upper 20's or even 30. Then if your relationship is still a good fit it probably won't change too much after that since your big life events are mostly done after that. Does anyone have a happy marriage in their 30's and somehow when they're 45 things changed so bad? I find it hard to believe, unless someone's marriage was always based on sex appeal and their spouse got fat after age 40 and they started cheating on them. So how about you just don't marry someone if you only find them attractive and it's not deeper than that?

highhoppingworm wrote:

Colby wrote:

This is the best response!!!

Agree. Great post.

Yep I do agree with all this too. The hard part is actually finding the person who can fulfill all of this. If you do, great. Most can't get to that point but some are fortunate to attain it.