Already bored talking drugs, don't you guys ever get tired of this?
Unless an athlete actually gets popped for using they are clean, just how it goes. Accusations simply don't work.
Not when they're black or women, no, not on here.
This god forsaken site is so overrun with tiny dick incel racist losers, it's truly remarkable. T&FN is so dry, so as bad it is, this is somehow, someway the lesser of the two evils.
With women the transformation is more obvious and with sprinters the bulk gains are obvious too.
Race issues are obvious too, I remember when Ben Johnson was popped for PED's. I remember a paper had a political cartoon and they had Johnson winning the gold and they said Canadian wins gold and when he was popped the headline was Jamaican-Canadian tests positive and when he was suspended it was Jamaican suspended.
The one thing that really made me laugh and shake my head this summer was when Lewis Johnson was interviewing kersee for nationals? He was like"I know you like to stay in the background bobby". Lol. I'm old enough to remember the jjk/flojo era on nbc they showed him carrying on in the stands more than her competing. I suppose that is some progress.
Just general comment it is depressing that so many coaches with shady past still in sport. Can't people find other people to help them.
Finally anytime I type about flojo it's necessary to bring up Evelyn Ashford who is not a footnote obv but still not recognized as prob the best US female sprinter of all time thanks to flojo. She had to race east germans and flojo. Yuck. You never know if anyone is clean but at least with her there was hope I think.
Wow. Joe Biden knew more about FloJo's links to drugs than me.
Wash Post wrote:
As part of her testimony before Biden, Connolly, a three-time Olympian, produced the Feb. 9, 1989. issue of a West German magazine, Bunte, which was put on record at the hearing. In the magazine, there are two pictures of Griffith Joyner, one labeled as taken in 1984, the other in 1988. "The article . . . shows a comparison of two athletes," Biden said. Connolly corrected Biden, saying it was the same person. Griffith Joyner, who recently retired from track, repeatedly has denied using steroids. She and her former coach, Bob Kersee, have attributed her stunning performances to a strenuous workout regimen before the Olympics.
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I wish you had spent as much time on reading up on the evidence that WADA provided for the banning of the burrito eating athlete, instead of spending an in ordinate amount of time and resources defending her guilt. It is fascinating how you readily accept one and discard the other. I wonder why...
55.63 for 400 hurdles as a FOURTEEN-YEAR-OLD. I think the hurdles might be slightly lower but still, 55.63! That is natural talent. She doesn't need anything illegal to be the best in history. Many years before Kersee entered the picture.
55.63 for 400 hurdles as a FOURTEEN-YEAR-OLD. I think the hurdles might be slightly lower but still, 55.63! That is natural talent. She doesn't need anything illegal to be the best in history. Many years before Kersee entered the picture.
That’s a really good point. If you look back at an athletes progression before they could plausibly be said to be on a drug regimen, and they were extraordinary, it is a sign they are clean now.
This god forsaken site is so overrun with tiny dick incel racist losers, it's truly remarkable. T&FN is so dry, so as bad it is, this is somehow, someway the lesser of the two evils.
With women the transformation is more obvious and with sprinters the bulk gains are obvious too.
Race issues are obvious too, I remember when Ben Johnson was popped for PED's. I remember a paper had a political cartoon and they had Johnson winning the gold and they said Canadian wins gold and when he was popped the headline was Jamaican-Canadian tests positive and when he was suspended it was Jamaican suspended.
I agree. Officials will go a lot farther to get balcks off the hook. Look at was was done for Carl Lewis, an epic cheater for many years.
55.63 for 400 hurdles as a FOURTEEN-YEAR-OLD. I think the hurdles might be slightly lower but still, 55.63! That is natural talent. She doesn't need anything illegal to be the best in history. Many years before Kersee entered the picture.
That’s a really good point. If you look back at an athletes progression before they could plausibly be said to be on a drug regimen, and they were extraordinary, it is a sign they are clean now.
Not necessarily. Talent can only get you so far. To be able to compete, and win, against elites on the world stage, athletes need "help."
55.63 for 400 hurdles as a FOURTEEN-YEAR-OLD. I think the hurdles might be slightly lower but still, 55.63! That is natural talent. She doesn't need anything illegal to be the best in history. Many years before Kersee entered the picture.
I remember when people used to say this about Marion jones. And then…