who is the best freshman? wrote:
Hey Alec, is it true that Aaron transferred to Oregon because he thought you guys were pompous jerks?
You need to learn what humility is and start practicing it before you declare yourself the ncaa champion.
He is a graduate student now at Oregon. Man, so many of you people are dicks.
Agreed, YSU is up their own asses constantly but refuse to race good Ohio teams and still call themselves the best in Ohio. They would have gotten beaten nearly as badly at all Ohio as they did in Michigan if they atcually showed up.
Props to Alec Sandusky. Posts here with his real name. He has improved tremendously since high school. You people slamming him are a-holes.
Also, the best Ohio college runner that no one has yet mentioned is Jake Bertelsen of Miami.
Usually distance guys go to Miami to die because the coach there sucks, but somehow the crappy environment there and bad coaching hasn't deterred Bertelsen. He turned himself from a 9:37 3200 high school guy into a 29:39 10,000 guy. Wonder what he could have done with a real coach with an actually good environment.
Someonewhoknows wrote:
He is a graduate student now at Oregon. Man, so many of you people are dicks.
Below is the pot calling the kettle black.
quote]Someonewhoknows wrote:
Usually distance guys go to Miami to die because the coach there sucks, but somehow the crappy environment there and bad coaching hasn't deterred Bertelsen. [/quote]
So, Byron, who is the dick?
Evidently a good number of those Miami guys that went to Miami and died were still good enough to beat your son in a reserve meet a few weeks ago. Guess that makes his distance career dead as well.
😂 🤣
who is the best freshman? wrote:
Someonewhoknows wrote:
He is a graduate student now at Oregon. Man, so many of you people are dicks.
Below is the pot calling the kettle black.
quote]Someonewhoknows wrote:
Usually distance guys go to Miami to die because the coach there sucks, but somehow the crappy environment there and bad coaching hasn't deterred Bertelsen.
So, Byron, who is the dick?
Evidently a good number of those Miami guys that went to Miami and died were still good enough to beat your son in a reserve meet a few weeks ago. Guess that makes his distance career dead as well.
😂 🤣[/quote]
Lol ouch.
Also, maybe people go to Miami for more then running?
who is the best freshman? wrote:
Someonewhoknows wrote:
He is a graduate student now at Oregon. Man, so many of you people are dicks.
Below is the pot calling the kettle black.
quote]Someonewhoknows wrote:
Usually distance guys go to Miami to die because the coach there sucks, but somehow the crappy environment there and bad coaching hasn't deterred Bertelsen.
So, Byron, who is the dick?
Evidently a good number of those Miami guys that went to Miami and died were still good enough to beat your son in a reserve meet a few weeks ago. Guess that makes his distance career dead as well.
😂 🤣[/quote]
I have no idea what you are talking about. My name isn't Byron, and I don't have a son who ran in a reserve meet against Miami recently or ever.
Someonewhoknows wrote:
who is the best freshman? wrote:
Below is the pot calling the kettle black.
quote]Someonewhoknows wrote:
Usually distance guys go to Miami to die because the coach there sucks, but somehow the crappy environment there and bad coaching hasn't deterred Bertelsen.
So, Byron, who is the dick?
Evidently a good number of those Miami guys that went to Miami and died were still good enough to beat your son in a reserve meet a few weeks ago. Guess that makes his distance career dead as well.
😂 🤣
I have no idea what you are talking about. My name isn't Byron, and I don't have a son who ran in a reserve meet against Miami recently or ever.[/quote]
I just went to Miami's schedule and saw that they have only run one meet so far. A dual meet against Indiana. A little sleuthing tells me that Dustin Horter's father's name is Byron. You think I am Byron Horter? Wrong! Not sure why you would think that. From seeing some of Dustin's interviews when he was in high school, it is clear he is or at least was a conservative Christian, so I assume his parents might be also? Let me tell you what I think of Christians. They worship something that doesn't exist. Still think I am Byron Horter?
Yawn^9 wrote:
who is the best freshman? wrote:
Below is the pot calling the kettle black.
quote]Someonewhoknows wrote:
Usually distance guys go to Miami to die because the coach there sucks, but somehow the crappy environment there and bad coaching hasn't deterred Bertelsen.
So, Byron, who is the dick?
Evidently a good number of those Miami guys that went to Miami and died were still good enough to beat your son in a reserve meet a few weeks ago. Guess that makes his distance career dead as well.
😂 🤣
Lol ouch.
Also, maybe people go to Miami for more then running?[/quote]
People go to Miami for two reasons. It's a pretty good school. It's a party school. Those are ok reasons to go to that school. It's not a good environment though for serious runners.
Someonewhoknows wrote:
I just went to Miami's schedule and saw that they have only run one meet so far. A dual meet against Indiana. A little sleuthing tells me that Dustin Horter's father's name is Byron. You think I am Byron Horter? Wrong! Not sure why you would think that. From seeing some of Dustin's interviews when he was in high school, it is clear he is or at least was a conservative Christian, so I assume his parents might be also? Let me tell you what I think of Christians. They worship something that doesn't exist. Still think I am Byron Horter?
Fair enough. The mistake was made because in looking through the HS phenom thread, I noticed someone with your username that is vigorously defending Dustin Horter. That person seems like a parent or someone that is very close to him. I just figured that you are that person.
You’re pretty critical of Miami. They don’t seem to be as bad as you say. There is some decent talent there. In track in men’s middle distance, they have had a lot of success including Finley McLear’s 2nd place finish in the indoor 800. The DMR team also did well.
To be fair Miami is kind of a joke. The guys should be faster than they are and get thrown around once they leave the state of Ohio. Sad to watch honestly but go Redfuqs or whatever they called
who is the best freshman? wrote:
Someonewhoknows wrote:
I just went to Miami's schedule and saw that they have only run one meet so far. A dual meet against Indiana. A little sleuthing tells me that Dustin Horter's father's name is Byron. You think I am Byron Horter? Wrong! Not sure why you would think that. From seeing some of Dustin's interviews when he was in high school, it is clear he is or at least was a conservative Christian, so I assume his parents might be also? Let me tell you what I think of Christians. They worship something that doesn't exist. Still think I am Byron Horter?
Fair enough. The mistake was made because in looking through the HS phenom thread, I noticed someone with your username that is vigorously defending Dustin Horter. That person seems like a parent or someone that is very close to him. I just figured that you are that person.
You’re pretty critical of Miami. They don’t seem to be as bad as you say. There is some decent talent there. In track in men’s middle distance, they have had a lot of success including Finley McLear’s 2nd place finish in the indoor 800. The DMR team also did well.
I never said Miami didn't have decent talent. They do. That's the point. They recruit well, and then their talent mostly doesn't get better, and in some cases they get worse. I am not going to name names, but if you follow their recent history, you will see a lot of underperforming guys, especially in cross country. Miami is a party school, and that's not conducive to doing well in distance running.
It is well known that “someonewhoknows” is Hunter Moore.
loser, billionaire, philanthropist wrote:
It is well known that “someonewhoknows” is Hunter Moore.
I am not Hunter Moore.
someonewhoknows is dustin horter
Well if its Hunter Moore, you peaked in high school and transferring four times hasn't seemed to do you to well because in the near future you will probably be finishing behind the whole Miami top 7.
This site isn't perfect, but does a pretty job of applying stats to results. Mostly, though, it's really easy to plug in teams and let the algorithm do the work. It shows teams and individuals. Not saying I agree or disagree with the results, but it's interesting to look at. I know he was having issues with some seniors coming back for their free year and others who didn't. But those kids are slowly getting filtered out. Probably be more accurate in a week or two. i.e. Torpy is still listed and shouldn't be.
Per this the team rankings are : Cincinnati, Miami, Walsh, YSU, Toledo
And individuals would be: Sandusky, Chesum, Camerieri, Hild, Moore
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This is just stupid. Why on earth would use a dumb website to project results for a race that just happened. You know its a terrible generator too when it does not even have the guy that won in the top 10. Also, Miami is the best team in Ohio no doubt, even a full Cinci roster would not touch Miami in a race.
IDK, maybe because the thread started off wondering how the teams that skipped (YSU, Toledo, Xavier) would have fared. And, because as the year progresses some teams improve and others dont. Some kids get hurt and some kids return from injury.
I didn't come out and say, "see, this proves x team is better than y team" i just wanted to share an interesting tool. Ans, fwiw, i agree that Miami is the best team.. But, sure, let's keep letsrun toxic every chance we can.
I will 2nd Walsh wrote:
park wins wrote:
No love for Ohio’s Josh Park? He’s still at Ohio as a grad student and is eligible. If he runs in the all-Ohio, he wins.
Bienenfield going to Oregon is a huge loss for Cincinnati.
Agree about Walsh. They’re loaded. They have Hunter Moore who transferred from Otterbein and won the Tommy Evans meet in Akron covering 4 miles in 19:15. Drew Roberts, a sophomore was only 5 seconds behinds him, and Nathan Moore, a freshman and last year’s Ohio State HS D1 xc champion, was 3rd in around 19:30. Walsh has good support behind those guys. I wouldn’t be surprised if they won the team title.
Too bad Akron no longer has men’s XC. They usually competed well.
Some may laugh, but Hunter Moore could actually contend for the individual title. He seems like he's really running well. I'm curious about why he transferred to Walsh from Otterbein. Before Otterbein, he was at Eastern Michigan and Indiana. He's a really big talent with huge natural ability. He probably would have won the individual State HS title when he was a senior at Orange but he fell late in the race and could not recover. Perhaps he's at Walsh as a grad student? I really don't know and I guess it's not that important.
I was surprised that Nathan Moore chose to go to Walsh. He probably could have gone to a big-time program if he wanted to. He has the talent to be at a place like Oregon or NAU. Walsh is close to home for him and as long as he's happy that is all that matters. Nathan is not Hunter's brother but I guess that they might be cousins but I really don't know.
It seems that Malone has fallen off the map a bit. Hazen is getting pretty old and perhaps the studs want to run for a younger coach. I really don't know. It wasn't all that long ago that Malone would contend for the overall title of All-Ohio against the bigger guys. They were a good bit behind Walsh at the Tommy Evans meet a few weeks ago. Malone was really good for a long time so maybe this is just cyclical and they'll be back. With the stricter social codes, chapel, and all of that, the school definitely is not for everyone.
Dayton is pretty solid also.
Here are the Tommy Evans reults.
https://d2o2figo6ddd0g.cloudfront.net/h/q/srvfwjkhxvy7ro/tommyevansmen9-4men.pdf
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