Best Team / Individual in Ohio

Nice to see the progress of the UC programs - I am UC XC and T&F 81-83.

Big 12 addition will help recruiting going forward.

Walsh is better than at least 2 of these teams.

No love for Ohio’s Josh Park? He’s still at Ohio as a grad student and is eligible. If he runs in the all-Ohio, he wins.

Bienenfield going to Oregon is a huge loss for Cincinnati.

Agree about Walsh. They’re loaded. They have Hunter Moore who transferred from Otterbein and won the Tommy Evans meet in Akron covering 4 miles in 19:15. Drew Roberts, a sophomore was only 5 seconds behinds him, and Nathan Moore, a freshman and last year’s Ohio State HS D1 xc champion, was 3rd in around 19:30. Walsh has good support behind those guys. I wouldn’t be surprised if they won the team title.

Too bad Akron no longer has men’s XC. They usually competed well.

park wins wrote:

No love for Ohio’s Josh Park? He’s still at Ohio as a grad student and is eligible. If he runs in the all-Ohio, he wins.

Bienenfield going to Oregon is a huge loss for Cincinnati.

Agree about Walsh. They’re loaded. They have Hunter Moore who transferred from Otterbein and won the Tommy Evans meet in Akron covering 4 miles in 19:15. Drew Roberts, a sophomore was only 5 seconds behinds him, and Nathan Moore, a freshman and last year’s Ohio State HS D1 xc champion, was 3rd in around 19:30. Walsh has good support behind those guys. I wouldn’t be surprised if they won the team title.

Too bad Akron no longer has men’s XC. They usually competed well.

Kent State used to have good teams when I was there years ago, but Akron and I think Ball State, along with Toledo, had all the studs in T&F and XC.

park wins wrote:

No love for Ohio’s Josh Park? He’s still at Ohio as a grad student and is eligible. If he runs in the all-Ohio, he wins.

Bienenfield going to Oregon is a huge loss for Cincinnati.

Agree about Walsh. They’re loaded. They have Hunter Moore who transferred from Otterbein and won the Tommy Evans meet in Akron covering 4 miles in 19:15. Drew Roberts, a sophomore was only 5 seconds behinds him, and Nathan Moore, a freshman and last year’s Ohio State HS D1 xc champion, was 3rd in around 19:30. Walsh has good support behind those guys. I wouldn’t be surprised if they won the team title.

Too bad Akron no longer has men’s XC. They usually competed well.

Some may laugh, but Hunter Moore could actually contend for the individual title. He seems like he's really running well. I'm curious about why he transferred to Walsh from Otterbein. Before Otterbein, he was at Eastern Michigan and Indiana. He's a really big talent with huge natural ability. He probably would have won the individual State HS title when he was a senior at Orange but he fell late in the race and could not recover. Perhaps he's at Walsh as a grad student? I really don't know and I guess it's not that important.

I was surprised that Nathan Moore chose to go to Walsh. He probably could have gone to a big-time program if he wanted to. He has the talent to be at a place like Oregon or NAU. Walsh is close to home for him and as long as he's happy that is all that matters. Nathan is not Hunter's brother but I guess that they might be cousins but I really don't know.

It seems that Malone has fallen off the map a bit. Hazen is getting pretty old and perhaps the studs want to run for a younger coach. I really don't know. It wasn't all that long ago that Malone would contend for the overall title of All-Ohio against the bigger guys. They were a good bit behind Walsh at the Tommy Evans meet a few weeks ago. Malone was really good for a long time so maybe this is just cyclical and they'll be back. With the stricter social codes, chapel, and all of that, the school definitely is not for everyone.

Dayton is pretty solid also.

Here are the Tommy Evans reults.

Bearcat wrote:

I don't think OSU has anyone relevant (maybe a freshman).

Who do you think is the best team in Ohio, the clear top 5 in order are us (Cincy), JCU, YSU, Dayton, and OSU. It is kind of embarrassing how the biggest school in the state and being in the big 10, OSU is not able to be a top program.

I just went back to reread your post.

Ohio State has a few guys that are OK. I think that Arjun Jha's brother, Zubin, could eventually be pretty decent. I also thought that Giovanni Copploe was going to run better but I believe that he has had some injury issues.

It's funny how you say that there is "the clear top 5" and there is no mention of Walsh. The Bearcats are good and with Aaron Bienenfeld they would have clearly been the best but I will not at all be surprised if Walsh is close to them on Saturday.

No love for Xavier? Stamm is likely the best freshmen running collegiately in the State of Ohio right now.

cardinalls wrote:

No love for Xavier? Stamm is likely the best freshmen running collegiately in the State of Ohio right now.

Part of the reason that there is no love for Xavier is that they are not running at the All-Ohio meet at Cedarville this weekend. That is what this thread is about.

Do you think that Stamm is better than Nathan Moore at Walsh who is also a freshman?

I'm sorry to keep beating the "Walsh drum" and quite honestly, I have no connection to the program. I'm just aware of the depth of talent that they have and they are only a D2 school.

Moore went 8:57 for the 3200 in high school. He was also the Ohio HS D1 XC champion besting Nathan Mountain who is at Virginia and was one of the best in the United States last season. In Moore's first XC meet, he finished 3rd covering 4 miles in 19:30.

I'm not bagging on Stamm. He's a fine runner. His HS accolades pale in comparison to Moore's and in his first collegiate XC race he finished 19th covering 6000 meters (approximately 3.73 miles) in 18:40.

Stamm is not "likely the best freshmen running collegiately in the State of Ohio right now."

Speaking of Xavier, I am really eager to see what Rachel Butler does the rest of this season. In the first XC meet that she ever ran in her life, Butler went 17:19 over 5K to win the Butler University Invitational. She was a soccer player that had a lot of concussions and wisely gave up soccer. With some training, I would think that she could get down to around 16:30 for 5K and maybe under 20:00 for 6K.

The best “freshman” in the state of Ohio is probably the low 14 guy Miami picked up overseas. Or the Maryland kid at Kent State. I guess we will find out tomorrow if everyone is racing.

scrambled eggs wrote:

The best “freshman” in the state of Ohio is probably the low 14 guy Miami picked up overseas. Or the Maryland kid at Kent State. I guess we will find out tomorrow if everyone is racing.

The Maryland kid? Do you mean Baidy Ba who freshman Nathan Moore already beat by 21 seconds at Evan a few weeks ago?

I’m not sure who the guy at Miami is that you’re referring to.

Some of y’all know nothing, especially the person who posted this lol. I’m not afraid of anyone and welcome any challenge. Put some respect on Josh Park for one, and secondly, we have 5 guys who can run 14:20 or better so we’ll see y’all at regionals.

alecsandusky wrote:

Some of y’all know nothing, especially the person who posted this lol. I’m not afraid of anyone and welcome any challenge. Put some respect on Josh Park for one, and secondly, we have 5 guys who can run 14:20 or better so we’ll see y’all at regionals.

get off the message boards and go race then

You Cincinnati guys have big mouths. It’s no wonder that everyone in Ohio hates Cincinnati and considers it to be part of Kentucky.

Go eat some chili, hill jack…

MALONE!!!!

who is the best freshman? wrote:

You Cincinnati guys have big mouths. It’s no wonder that everyone in Ohio hates Cincinnati and considers it to be part of Kentucky.

Go eat some chili, hill jack…

This is probably from a dude at Walsh in north canton….being above the redline doesn’t make you any special, well you’re already a little special in a different way. Have fun getting dropped by some big boys today. Noah murray has a porn addiction

How do we have big mouths? Our top 5 based on 3k times are 7:53, 8:12, 8:15, 8:16, 8:21? They Have also run 3:45, 3:46, 3.:47, 3:48. I know letsrun is pure cancer but this is beyond me.

Also I meant this initial thread post is stupid to clarify, Walsh is really good this year.

alecsandusky wrote:

How do we have big mouths? Our top 5 based on 3k times are 7:53, 8:12, 8:15, 8:16, 8:21? They Have also run 3:45, 3:46, 3.:47, 3:48. I know letsrun is pure cancer but this is beyond me.

“I’m not afraid of anyone.”

You have a big mouth, Alec. Get back to spanking the monkey with all of your other little Bearcats. You guys will get torched at the regional meet.

Does that mean I can beat anyone? No. Just means I’m confident I can run with anyone and compete. At least I don’t hide behind a fake name and I believe in my team. Thanks for the motivation my friend.