What Fauci's "headed in wrong direction" looks like counting U.S. deaths, not cases

2 weeks to flatten the curve 👍

It’s always about whatever stat is the “scariest” and people lap it up like milk.

My hot take is that August deaths will be higher than in July. Macro trend is good. Micro trend is bad.

Yesbut wrote:

From CDC data through today, using their broadest category "All deaths involving Covid-19."

2021

January: 104,693

February: 47,185

March: 22,715

April: 18,374

May: 14,458

June: 7,404

July: 2,942

Clearly, "headed in wrong direction." At least for those who want to keep the fear level turned up to 11.

It’s fine. Eventually we’ll have had 350 million cases of the obsolete virus but be well on our way to testing the cadavers of car accident or homicide victims for the presence of Delta-Iota-Epsilon COVID caused by SARS-nCov-2022™️ (Pfizer patent) via 60-cycle PCR.

But influenza will have been eradicated, so try your best to pat yourselves on the back if your Bio-Bubble™️ (also a Pfizer patent) is the Deluxe model with additional space to move around within.

One person dies every 36 seconds from heart disease in the US. So we should ban all heart stressful activities forever.

We should also ban driving because of accidents.

Maybe ban fast food restaurants beciase thatnis bad for you. Can’t have that.

The entire world is out of control.

Yesbut wrote:

From CDC data through today, using their broadest category "All deaths involving Covid-19."

2021

January: 104,693

February: 47,185

March: 22,715

April: 18,374

May: 14,458

June: 7,404

July: 2,942

Clearly, "headed in wrong direction." At least for those who want to keep the fear level turned up to 11.

It is pretty crazy that this talking point isn’t more prevalent in the media. The COVID death rate has been absolutely plummeting for the last seven months but you wouldn’t know it if you turned on CNN or listened to a recent Faucci lecture.

I think news outlets like CNN are pushing fear porn simply because it keeps eyes glued to the screen, fear sells- for the media it’s about the dollar bills.

Now I think the reasons the various government entities & politicians are going overdrive on fear peddling are much more nefarious.

"Headed in the wrong direction" is perfectly consistent with rising case numbers. I'm not one of those who thinks we have to lockdown forever, but this was an idiotic post.

Sham 69 2024 wrote:

"Headed in the wrong direction" is perfectly consistent with rising case numbers. I'm not one of those who thinks we have to lockdown forever, but this was an idiotic post.

Just fifteen (more) days to flatten the curve, then?

This bullsht used to be gradual. Now the boot is really mashing the trachea.

7 day moving average for cases went from about 11k to over 54k over the course of a month. Hospitalizations in the US have doubled over the same time period. Why would any rational person think Fauci is wrong when he says we are moving in the wrong direction?

Deaths are down because people who are vaccinated are protected from severe illness. But the mRNA vaxes were originally 95% effective in preventing infection from Alpha. Data from Israel suggests that protection is down to 40% due to Delta's extremely high transmissibility. Delta also may be causing more severe illness. There are reports from hospitals of people taking a much faster turn for the worse on the Delta variant than what was experienced with Alpha.

The next step for variants will be immunity escape. Delta already appears to be able to escape both mRNA immunity and Alpha immunity with the latter providing weaker protection as time goes by. The more the virus circulates the more we run the risk of a variant that takes us back to day one by defeating mRNA vax immunity.

Phil Ken Sebben wrote:

Sham 69 2024 wrote:

"Headed in the wrong direction" is perfectly consistent with rising case numbers. I'm not one of those who thinks we have to lockdown forever, but this was an idiotic post.

Just fifteen (more) days to flatten the curve, then?

This bullsht used to be gradual. Now the boot is really mashing the trachea.

Oh, do stfu please

Mask mandates coming back because 100 million people won't get vaccinated. We're all going to suffer because they suck. If vaccination rates from April/May had continued to present, we'd be north of 80% and all moving on with our lives. Instead we get to go backwards because of these idiots. Even Canada, who botched their rollout, is ahead of us now. We had a huge lead and this race and surrendered it.

Mandates being lined up for implementation (i.e punishment) even as unvaccinated are lined up against the cement wall to take the blame for the majority of cases which are among...the vaccinated. Poor covid fascists, can't stay on script: "The point of vaccination is NOT to prevent spread, but to reduce virulence!". Remember, guys?

Please follow the right hymnal while singing in your authoritarian church choir. All this bouncing back and forth is making the director very upset. Bouncing back and forth the is HIS job dammit!

Help me out here. why have a mask mandates if the vaccines work so well, especially for the vaccinated? as far as the unvaccinated their body their choice as the vaccinated will be protected.

runguy wrote:

Help me out here. why have a mask mandates if the vaccines work so well, especially for the vaccinated? as far as the unvaccinated their body their choice as the vaccinated will be protected.

I’m really not understanding this either and have not heard a good reason of why anyone should be required to wear a mask.

According to the recently published below article about 4,100 people have had “breakthrough” Covid cases that caused death or hospitalization.

Also, about 161 million people have been vaccinated. This means if you are vaccinated you have about a .00026% of getting hospitalized or dying of COVID. And, since the vaccines are readily & freely available all across this country, you are making a choice to not get vaccinated and thus should deal with those consequences, right?

I understood the and could wrap my mind around the masking & lockdown folks pre-vaccine (although didn’t agree). Now, I’m just thinking it has just become tribal for the maskers.

Scape Those Goats wrote:

Mandates being lined up for implementation (i.e punishment) even as unvaccinated are lined up against the cement wall to take the blame for the majority of cases which are among...the vaccinated. Poor covid fascists, can't stay on script: "The point of vaccination is NOT to prevent spread, but to reduce virulence!". Remember, guys?

Please follow the right hymnal while singing in your authoritarian church choir. All this bouncing back and forth is making the director very upset. Bouncing back and forth the is HIS job dammit!

This is blatantly false.

Toilet Poster wrote:

Scape Those Goats wrote:

the majority of cases which are among...the vaccinated.

This is blatantly false.

CORRECT. And since the contradictory info has been spread everywhere, Scape *knew* it was false, and said it anyway. *Knowing* falsehoods are LIES.

runguy wrote:

Help me out here. why have a mask mandates if the vaccines work so well, especially for the vaccinated? as far as the unvaccinated their body their choice as the vaccinated will be protected.

I agree wholeheartedly, but the CDC and local health departments aren't going to tell people "you're on your own". They'll roll back into masking with the thought they're protecting those who won't protect themselves.

It is pretty crazy that this talking point isn’t more prevalent in the media. The COVID death rate has been absolutely plummeting for the last seven months but you wouldn’t know it if you turned on CNN or listened to a recent Faucci lecture.

Here's one article bucking that trend:

Yesbut wrote:

It is pretty crazy that this talking point isn’t more prevalent in the media. The COVID death rate has been absolutely plummeting for the last seven months but you wouldn’t know it if you turned on CNN or listened to a recent Faucci lecture.

Here's one article bucking that trend:

https://nypost.com/2021/07/26/covid-has-become-a-media-driven-panic-disconnected-from-facts/

The author makes sense. Liberals will hate the guy