An NCAA Athlete wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
White guys
No, because he's a current NCAA athlete who qualified for the olympics in a popular event. So it's pretty relevant to people in the United States, which is a majority of the people on here, and distance fans which is also the majority of who is on here.
NCAA Athlete - you're new here, aren't you? Real answers are NOT what is wanted. Only snark.
rojo wrote:
What's interesting about Mestler is he ran 8:33 at NCAAs and didn't make the final. Runs the exact same time at USAs and does make the final.
It was 60 degrees at NCAA and 90 degrees at the trials.
Fantastic! He is such a smooth, fluid runner. Keeps getting better. I really hoped he takes down that current Aussie record this year!!
He finally went out faster than 51 second first quarter. He did not look like he ran NCAA’s to win when he went out in like 52.
JBaller33 wrote:
Australia had only named 2 guys to their 800 team so far, so it looks like they will be naming a 3rd. Still haven't named Hoare though at 1500......
The selection period hasn't closed yet
free shipping with purchases wrote:
rojo wrote:
What's interesting about Mestler is he ran 8:33 at NCAAs and didn't make the final. Runs the exact same time at USAs and does make the final.
It was 60 degrees at NCAA and 90 degrees at the trials.
And Mestler was going to not make it pretty decisively but then two guys ate it on the final water jump in the slower heat. Some Hayward magic/sorcery.
JBaller33 wrote:
Think About It wrote:
Few more races before the end of the qualifying period and a couple of athletes they might think capable of running a faster time? Waiting until the end of the qualifying period to name the final athletes is probably a good practice.
They have already named Jye Edwards at 1,500 though, mainly because he won the Australian championships, which Hoare didn't attend. Hoare has a faster time though. Are they punishing Hoare for being based in the US and not going to the Australian championships? Because they literally said they didn't expect US-based athletes to show up. Matthew Ramsden also has the qualifying standard, and they haven't named him yet either.
because the qualifying period is not over yet.
As the other guy answered
An NCAA Athlete wrote:
rojo wrote:
I thought the Olympics were in August?
What's interesting about Mestler is he ran 8:33 at NCAAs and didn't make the final. Runs the exact same time at USAs and does make the final.
It's because all of the NCAA guys this season must have 'the shoes' and none of the pros do? The NCAA guys all season were running fast because of the shoes! There's no way the NCAA guys were just extremely competitive this year. Legitimate contenders for 1500/5k and even Mantz finishing top 5 at USA championships.. Some steeplers way up as well, and an 800 runner finsihing 2nd beating two finalists from 2019 world championships... It's time to admit the NCAA this year was insane, they didn't run their times because of super shoes. They're running shoulder to shoulder with the best runners in the country.
....And then a HS athlete comes along and runs faster than any NCAA athlete ever without even racing once in college.
We'll see what becomes of the current crop of NCAA distance and mid d in the Olympics but it looks good!
But this is not unusual at all:
In 2016 Clayton Murphy won the NCAA 800 indoor title followed by the 1500 outdoor title followed by Oly trials win followed by a Oly bronze medal.
Olympic years always bring out the best of the best, young and old. See Hobbs Kessler, 18 y.o and contrast with Justin Gatlin, 39 y.o!
This also reflects to how Olympic medals mean so much more than DL accolades or even WCs....There just isn't near the frenzy or competition in off years.
truthdddd wrote:
JBaller33 wrote:
Australia had only named 2 guys to their 800 team so far, so it looks like they will be naming a 3rd. Still haven't named Hoare though at 1500......
The selection period hasn't closed yet
I mean, I agree, but why name anybody yet? If you're going to start naming people to the team, Hoare is about as slam dunk as it gets, and he hasn't been named yet? I really think they're punishing the US-based runners.
JBaller33 wrote:
truthdddd wrote:
The selection period hasn't closed yet
I mean, I agree, but why name anybody yet? If you're going to start naming people to the team, Hoare is about as slam dunk as it gets, and he hasn't been named yet? I really think they're punishing the US-based runners.
it has been explained a few times in here how some auto qualified. Hoare and Hunter have not since they didnt travel back to AUS. They should definitely be selected when the window closes in a week (also been mentioned).
wannabepro25 wrote:
He finally went out faster than 51 second first quarter. He did not look like he ran NCAA’s to win when he went out in like 52.
Yes, I know he's in the (early career) Nick Symmonds school of 800 tactics, but he was waaay too passive at NCAAs. You don't have to go out in 50 or go on the leader's shoulder, but he should've at least done what McLear did and tried to remain in striking distance. Yes, I understand he beat McLear but his sights should be set higher as this PB indicates.
I have to admit that if you look at the top 25 NCAA times year by year from 2012 through 2021 in the men's 1500m, right now this year looks like a total outlier in quality depth. While there are a few years like 2012 and 2019 in which you had guys like Kyle Merber and Josh Kerr run 3:35 as the best in-season times, the 25th best time is 3:38.85 this year but typically 3:42.xx in all the other years.
Yared Nuguse is a good indicator, as he was 25th as a freshman in 3:42, then ran 3:38, then 3:34.68 this year, up to #1. Of course, weather was good for NCAA's, but still that data made me look again at the shoe argument after the potential qualifier data for the top 100 NCAA D1 and D3 in the distances, men and women, going back years didn't show any such phenomenon.
Ok the way it works for Australia is at the national champs if you win and have the standard or get the standard afterwards but before the olympics your spot is secured e.g jye edwards then the next two spots are up to AA to choose like in the 1500 but for the 800 where only three Australian athletes have hit the standard those three are the ones who are selected because of a no contest
Correction only first gets the auto nomination there are two discretionary spots
Go Australia. I’m a fan of all running. I am lucky to live in Oregon and was privileged to see Jesica and Charlie run a lot as Ducks.