If you are vaccinated, why do you care that I am not?

Smearing RFK -- and you fall for it.

Science/Big Pharama created this virus and now you guys trust them to fix it.

Grow up

Das Unkle wrote:

The Grim Reaper wrote:

New York State positivity rate

December 17, 2020: 5.38%

June 20, 2021: 0.29%

That's something like a 94% decrease in the positivity rate since the vaccines became available.

The longer the anti-vaxxers hold out, the longer the virus is going to be with us.

Same thing happened last year in MA and NY -- without a vaccine.

And we were told it surged back in the Fall. And will be told the same thing this year.

And you guys will question nothing

Show me the numbers. Give me a link. Don't just make it up.

Last year, people relaxed, and the numbers went back up. This year, people relaxed even more and, so far, the numbers have stayed down. What's the difference?

[quote]The Grim Reaper wrote:

[quote]Das Unkle wrote:

[quote]The Grim Reaper wrote:

New York State positivity rate

December 17, 2020: 5.38%

June 20, 2021: 0.29%

Last year, people relaxed, and the numbers went back up.

Complete nonsense. That was establishment narrative based on no data, no evidence. Anyone could see people were still totally paranoid all last summer and fall.

They told us that (1) People were slacking (BS) and (2) the cold weather pushed folks inside where the virus is spread. Unfortunately for them the weather had not turned cold at all. Warmest October on record. They has written the narrative in advance. Just like they have written the narrative for this fall -- claim a surge, blame non vaccinated for somehow passing on "variants". it's all a fairy tale

Das Unkle wrote:

[quote]The Grim Reaper wrote:

[quote]Das Unkle wrote:

[quote]The Grim Reaper wrote:

New York State positivity rate

December 17, 2020: 5.38%

June 20, 2021: 0.29%

Last year, people relaxed, and the numbers went back up.

Complete nonsense. That was establishment narrative based on no data, no evidence. Anyone could see people were still totally paranoid all last summer and fall.

They told us that (1) People were slacking (BS) and (2) the cold weather pushed folks inside where the virus is spread. Unfortunately for them the weather had not turned cold at all. Warmest October on record. They has written the narrative in advance. Just like they have written the narrative for this fall -- claim a surge, blame non vaccinated for somehow passing on "variants". it's all a fairy tale

In NY, there was talk of re-imposing lockdowns in November, and taking a second look at indoor dining that had been allowed as of September.

In Utah, there was a spike in the fall that led to a mask mandate in November.

Those are just off the top of my head, I'm sure if you cared you could find a lot of documentation about an increase in cases nationwide last fall. That's the direct result of more interaction among people, less caution with masks and social distancing, and the lack of a vaccine at the time.

Coronavirus cases in Utah have been rising sharply since mid-September. The state's positivity rate is 20.6% for the past week, NPR member station KUER reported.

"Every expert told us come the fall cases would go up, and that's what's happening around the country and the globe," Governor Cuomo said.

Yes..."informed consent" is a "magic word" in the spectrum of medical ethics that gives Human beings a right to decline a medical procedure/intervention - why can't you get this through your head?

And c'mon man - calling slot receivers in the NFL "low IQ" is a Bush-League comment on your part. When you make a comment like that, you lower yourself to some immature kid who just won't stop with this fearmongering nonsense!

And who cares is Beasley retires. The Bills will owe him 1.5 mil of the guaranteed amount of his contract plus any player options. He'll probably land a spot in the broadcast booth with a sweet contract laughing all the way to the bank while posters here keeping going around in circles with this debate. Lol.

Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:

Yes..."informed consent" is a "magic word" in the spectrum of medical ethics that gives Human beings a right to decline a medical procedure/intervention - why can't you get this through your head?

And c'mon man - calling slot receivers in the NFL "low IQ" is a Bush-League comment on your part. When you make a comment like that, you lower yourself to some immature kid who just won't stop with this fearmongering nonsense!

And who cares is Beasley retires. The Bills will owe him 1.5 mil of the guaranteed amount of his contract plus any player options. He'll probably land a spot in the broadcast booth with a sweet contract laughing all the way to the bank while posters here keeping going around in circles with this debate. Lol.

He has a right to decline the vaccine.

He has no right to play in the NFL if he violates the league rules.

It's that simple!

And most slot-receivers are high IQ! This one is low IQ and therefore replaceable. Allen could make probably 400 different receivers look as good as this dude.

He is free to retire and pocket the rest of his contract. If OANN starts a football show I'm sure he'll be on their short list. There's no doubt he is in a position of power to "take a stand" here.

In reality, these guys know their career is limited and walking away when healthy and in good form is risky. Props to him if he does it though, football is dangerous --- not just because of the vaccines :)

The Unkle wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwxIPb6HlcQ

+1

Good stuff there Uncle. I had Covid, mild symptoms that self-resolved back in Feb, 2020, so I'm on board with what he says. You know what would be pretty cool is to see this hotshot Harambe sitting across from Paul - Rand would put him in his place like he did here with the doctor. Lol.

Declining the vaccine doesn't violate league rules and the unvaccinated can't be cut. However, there's a separate protocol for the unvaccinated to follow during the season (e.g., masks, social distancing, regular testing, etc.).

Got to hand it to Beasley - he's standing firm when so many high-profile athletes give in to the pressure: 👍

The very ugly truth is slowly coming out. More than 1,200 cases (that the CDC knows of). Vax mob mafia (Harambe, et al) what say you ? Have you been writing the headlines about this particular danger ? The word "rare" is always included.

"There have been more than 1,200 cases of a rare heart inflammation condition in people who received Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine, according to a CDC presentation slide published Wednesday ahead of an advisory meeting."

"The CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices is holding a meeting to discuss rare, but higher-than-expected, reports of myocarditis or pericarditis in 16- to-24-year-olds after receiving the mRNA vaccines. Myocarditis is the inflammation of the heart muscle, while pericarditis is the inflammation of the membrane surrounding the heart."

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/23/cdc-reports-more-than-1200-cases-of-rare-heart-inflammation-after-covid-vaccine-shots.html

Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:

Declining the vaccine doesn't violate league rules and the unvaccinated can't be cut. However, there's a separate protocol for the unvaccinated to follow during the season (e.g., masks, social distancing, regular testing, etc.).

Got to hand it to Beasley - he's standing firm when so many high-profile athletes give in to the pressure: 👍

Oh geez, that's even more embarrassing. He's whining because he has to swab his nose a few more times?

So he was literally just doing this all for the attention. I guess folks like you really eat these grifters up... so I can't blame him.

DanM wrote:

The very ugly truth is slowly coming out. More than 1,200 cases (that the CDC knows of). Vax mob mafia (Harambe, et al) what say you ? Have you been writing the headlines about this particular danger ? The word "rare" is always included.

"There have been more than 1,200 cases of a rare heart inflammation condition in people who received Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine, according to a CDC presentation slide published Wednesday ahead of an advisory meeting."

"The CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices is holding a meeting to discuss rare, but higher-than-expected, reports of myocarditis or pericarditis in 16- to-24-year-olds after receiving the mRNA vaccines. Myocarditis is the inflammation of the heart muscle, while pericarditis is the inflammation of the membrane surrounding the heart."

Rare seems to apply, still.

Still more common in COVID patients. Oops. Might want to factor that in your fearmongering.

Harambe wrote:

Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:

Declining the vaccine doesn't violate league rules and the unvaccinated can't be cut. However, there's a separate protocol for the unvaccinated to follow during the season (e.g., masks, social distancing, regular testing, etc.).

Got to hand it to Beasley - he's standing firm when so many high-profile athletes give in to the pressure: 👍

Oh geez, that's even more embarrassing. He's whining because he has to swab his nose a few more times?

So he was literally just doing this all for the attention. I guess folks like you really eat these grifters up... so I can't blame him.

The far right are the true masters of virtue signaling. It’s an art.

Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:

+1

Good stuff there Uncle. I had Covid, mild symptoms that self-resolved back in Feb, 2020, so I'm on board with what he says. You know what would be pretty cool is to see this hotshot Harambe sitting across from Paul - Rand would put him in his place like he did here with the doctor. Lol.

Pretty sure a guy who needs to stack his state board with family members to get his medical license renewed is... not an intellectual titan.

Regardless, I've been right about basically everything for the last 15 months, which is better than Randy over there.

I was just about to bring this up. Even their precious CDC is starting to acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, the vaccine can have unintended side effects. It will be intere1,2,5,10 years from now if the vaccinated all develop some side effects if people like Harambe and the media will acknowledge they were wrong or if they will sweep it under the rug.

The Unkle wrote:

I don't get it.

You think the vaccines work and you are vaccinated.

What threat am I to you?

You are an unneeded expense.

For everyone of the unvaccinated - by choice - ends up in the ICU its costs a fortune.

You are a financial drain on society and keep the country from returning to normal.

Yawn^7 wrote:

I was just about to bring this up. Even their precious CDC is starting to acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, the vaccine can have unintended side effects. It will be intere1,2,5,10 years from now if the vaccinated all develop some side effects if people like Harambe and the media will acknowledge they were wrong or if they will sweep it under the rug.

The CDC has very publicly discussed unintended sided effects of the Covid vaccines from the day they were approved, and probably earlier. Maybe you've been sleeping in a cave for 6 months and weren't aware of that. I think what you meant to say is that this particular potential side effect (myocarditis) is now being recognized and investigated.

Anyway, as Harambe pointed out, you can get myocarditis from the covid infection itself. So the important question that you and DanM aren't even asking is whether you're more likely to get myocarditis from Covid or from the vaccine. If the answer is "from Covid" (which I think it is), DanM's point is ... pointless.

And that's not even addressing the fact that the overwhelming majority of cases of myocarditis from the vaccine are mild and resolve fully.

Yawn^7 wrote:

I was just about to bring this up. Even their precious CDC is starting to acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, the vaccine can have unintended side effects. It will be intere1,2,5,10 years from now if the vaccinated all develop some side effects if people like Harambe and the media will acknowledge they were wrong or if they will sweep it under the rug.

Adverse events are always expected. They are almost always acute and short term, like these cases of myocarditis.

There is no basis for alleging that short-term side effects will somehow cause delayed long-term effects. It's just shameless hope that the vaccines fail because you're so committed to your denier-fearmonger persona.

I can’t take you seriously when you give the cdc so much credit. It really devalues everything you have to say. This is the same cdc that flip flops more then joe rogan.

I can either get a vaccine and risk heart problems, or I can take my chances not getting Covid like I have done for over a year. Even if I then get Covid I still may not have those same heart problems.

Mathematically it’s a no brainer.