Official Stumptown Twilight Discussion Thread

This is a totally rational and not insane take. Definitely.

Engels WAS entered in the race. He was in the live results as it happened.

Honk Honk Goose wrote:

TrackTown wrote:

DOING the workout so publicly is the mistake. Entering yourself into 3 heats of an event is stupid. Lots of athletes jumped in and out of heats to get extra work in, they didn't enter themselves officially for all the world to see. Engels ran an entire heat of the 5K clocking around 14:44ish but the results don't show because he never entered the race. Pete just told him to do it so he did. He also ran part of the next 5000 as well. Actually entering yourself was arrogant and it was done because he thought he would win and wanted everyone to see it. Those are facts. Normal people don't do stupid sh#t like that, they just do the extra work without needing the spotlight.

Engels WAS entered in the race. He was in the live results as it happened.

Wrong!

He WAS NOT entered and he NEVER showed up in the results, live or otherwise.

TrackTown wrote:

Honk Honk Goose wrote:

Engels WAS entered in the race. He was in the live results as it happened.

Wrong!

He WAS NOT entered and he NEVER showed up in the results, live or otherwise.

https://live.athletictiming.net/meets/10080/events/337531/splits

WRONG! He was in the Live results. I was watching those live and his name appeared with the other racers. It did not appear afterward for whatever reason.

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TrackTown wrote:

Wrong!

He WAS NOT entered and he NEVER showed up in the results, live or otherwise.

https://live.athletictiming.net/meets/10080/events/337531/splits

WRONG! He was in the Live results. I was watching those live and his name appeared with the other racers. It did not appear afterward for whatever reason.

This is a totally rational and not insane take. Definitely.

just to clear this up, in the off chance my DM to centro gets answered, and he responds saying entering 3 races was NOT a mistake, you'll pay me $1000?

I actually can't believe trolls like you are real

TrackTown wrote:

Honk Honk Goose wrote:

Engels WAS entered in the race. He was in the live results as it happened.

Wrong!

He WAS NOT entered and he NEVER showed up in the results, live or otherwise.

https://live.athletictiming.net/meets/10080/events/337531/splits

Hey, I and lot of others here saw it with our own eyes. He WAS in the live results during the race as I said. This thread was referencing splits for Engels as shown in the live results:

TrackTown wrote:

` wrote:

WRONG! He was in the Live results. I was watching those live and his name appeared with the other racers. It did not appear afterward for whatever reason.

This is a totally rational and not insane take. Definitely.

It's not a take. It's a fact. Don't worry, your ramblings make complete sense. I can tell you're very knowledgeable about track and field.

Honk Honk Goose wrote:

Engels WAS entered in the race. He was in the live results as it happened.

Once again, no he WAS NOT entered into the race, he just got in and ran it. If he appeared in the live results for a few laps, he should not have and was excluded from the results BECAUSE HE WASN'T ENTERED!

TrackTown wrote:

Honk Honk Goose wrote:

Engels WAS entered in the race. He was in the live results as it happened.

Once again, no he WAS NOT entered into the race, he just got in and ran it. If he appeared in the live results for a few laps, he should not have and was excluded from the results BECAUSE HE WASN'T ENTERED!

This is a very rational thing to be concerned with.

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TrackTown wrote:

This is a totally rational and not insane take. Definitely.

It's not a take. It's a fact. Don't worry, your ramblings make complete sense. I can tell you're very knowledgeable about track and field.

The whole passive aggressive, deflection thing doesn't work for you. Everyone can see you only do it when you know you been beaten and can't let go. Embarrassing actually.

TrackTown wrote:

` wrote:

It's not a take. It's a fact. Don't worry, your ramblings make complete sense. I can tell you're very knowledgeable about track and field.

The whole passive aggressive, deflection thing doesn't work for you. Everyone can see you only do it when you know you been beaten and can't let go. Embarrassing actually.

Yep, I've been beaten. Really trampled. Just plain dissected, to tell you the truth. Everyone can see it, how shameful.

I apologize. You win. All your posts make complete sense. Engels was not on the live results. It must have been a mirage. Centro was a moron and burned himself out. The Olympic gold medalist and his coach have no idea what they are doing. Complete failures, myself included.

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TrackTown wrote:

The whole passive aggressive, deflection thing doesn't work for you. Everyone can see you only do it when you know you been beaten and can't let go. Embarrassing actually.

Yep, I've been beaten. Really trampled. Just plain dissected, to tell you the truth. Everyone can see it, how shameful.

I apologize. You win. All your posts make complete sense. Engels was not on the live results. It must have been a mirage. Centro was a moron and burned himself out. The Olympic gold medalist and his coach have no idea what they are doing. Complete failures, myself included.

Yes, that's exactly what I said; word for word.

TrackTown wrote:

Honk Honk Goose wrote:

Engels WAS entered in the race. He was in the live results as it happened.

Once again, no he WAS NOT entered into the race, he just got in and ran it. If he appeared in the live results for a few laps, he should not have and was excluded from the results BECAUSE HE WASN'T ENTERED!

It's not "If he appeared in the live results", he DID appear in the live results. If he wasn't entered, why would his name be in the live results? Jamin was also in the live results, but he also was not in the final results, presumably because they didn't list DNFs.

Those of us who saw all this in the live results were looking there to see how Jamin was doing. I already pointed you to the other thread, which was started by Lenny Leonard.

Add: Though Jamin isn't the the results or entries for that 5000, there is still evidence that he was entered. If you search "Jamin" on the event results site, you'll see he was assigned #378 and you'll see his club name, but no event or results listed. Similarly, Engels WAS entered and in the live results for that same 5000, but, like Jamin, his name was also scrubbed from the results after the live portion of the results occurred.

pdnex wrote:

Why is it so difficult to find results.

LMGTFY

TrackTown wrote:

` wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPr4yGQFjwM/

Yeah such a mistake that he posted about it on his Instagram. Definitely seems like he regrets this workout.......moran

https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-09-2015/DCtSAj.gif

I'm not seeing he regrets the workout, but that he regrets not hitting the time on the last 800. There is a difference. You can miss a time on your last interval and be frustrated, it doesn't mean you didn't get any benefit from the workout. It doesn't mean you think the whole workout was a mistake.

I think any serious runner has had an interval workout like this. I nor anyone else I've ran with has ever said "That workout was a huge mistake, I missed the last interval time by 2-3sec".

I also have no problem with him entering all three hits, I'm sure it was good motivation being in a race format, keeps it interesting.

It is clear you don't like Centrowitz, that's cool, to each their own. We get it, you think the workout was stupid.

ErolsInternet wrote:

Marielle Hall won't last too much longer on BTC

No one dares to criticize her, why is that?

Gonna say this one last time for those that still don't get it and then I'm done. The people commenting clearly did not see the "race." It's one thing to have a bad workout, it's another thing all together to get emasculated in an 800 broadcast live. Yes, the workout was stupid. His last rep was in the 2nd fastest heat. If you watch the race, he was absolutely destroyed. Knowing the slowest heats were first, what kind of idiot would set the workout up like that? He was running with the faster group when he was most fatigued with the least amount of rest, he was dead last from the gun and it only got worse. You better believe they regret doing that. Ask them, they may give you some BS about doing it differently or some other excuse but the bottom line is that they are embarrassed by this and deeply regret doing it. Watch the video when you get a chance and see the reigning Olympic 1500 champion getting his a$$ handed to him in the 2nd heat of an 800. Talk about bad optics. If you read what people are saying on social media, they had no idea it was a workout and many didn't even know he was in the other heats. Fanboy all you want but this was a huge miss. Shelby time trialed without the need to show up and prove her fitness or get a public workout in, there was no need for this and Centro is pissed.

For the final time:

The workout was stupid

It was executed poorly

They regret doing it

Wrong move Centro