The BTC Ladies had a bad showing

Don't forget Sinclaire Johnson's 4:12.

Yep you’re right. The one I’m most surprised about is Marielle Hall… she seems to be digressing. Why did Emily DNF?

The Colleen drama really tore that team up

Fraser is coming off of a long recovery process for a surgery she had in both feet and probably hadn’t done much steady training, definitely wasn’t expecting a stellar performance from her. Infield no idea what happened there, Gwen was expected, I’m still baffled why she switched from the triathlon considering her success and being the Olympic champ. Hall is out of her prime, but injury could definitely be possible. Johnson I’m quite surprised about, she’s had a great string of races but today was it off.

Not sure how far along Fraser is on her injury recovery but that's about the only excuse for these performances. I can't remember the last time I saw a strong result for Hall and honestly can't remember the last time I saw any result for Infeld. Might be seeing all the old blood drained from Bowerman for the likes of Cranny/Schweizer and some new college kids.

crisscrosscountry wrote:

Not sure how far along Fraser is on her injury recovery but that's about the only excuse for these performances. I can't remember the last time I saw a strong result for Hall and honestly can't remember the last time I saw any result for Infeld. Might be seeing all the old blood drained from Bowerman for the likes of Cranny/Schweizer and some new college kids.

Agreed… I no longer think Infeld or Hall have any shot for the Olympics

I unfortunately have to agree... I am big fans of both , but Hall and Infeld seem like more than long shots at this point. Too much depth in the 10k to have any chance if they are putting up performances like this.

Time for Hall and Infeld to make the switch to road races.

The 5k performances weren’t too shocking, but what I want to know is where Shelby is at? Also Sinclair had an unusual poor performance. Not a good look when Monson, a 10k/5k runner is running 4 seconds faster over 1500.

Fraser ran a OT Q in the 10 back in December, so not first race back after Achilles procedure as many have erroneously claimed.

Not that I know but my guess is they’re all exhausted. Emily noted on IG that they had a really hard training block and considering so many of them did so poorly, I’d say Jerry tossed them into this with no taper. I’d also wager Hall is nursing some sort of injury because even for her, that was an atrocious performance. I hope Jerry doesn’t send the whole team to trials completely wiped.

free shipping with purchases wrote:

Fraser ran a OT Q in the 10 back in December, so not first race back after Achilles procedure as many have erroneously claimed.

She still gets a pass in my opinion. She probably hasn’t done any hard training and probably has had some bumps because of it. surgery like that takes a whole lot of time. The others however have been going for a long time now so not sure what happened with them.

Hall and Infield should definitely transition to the roads after this year though.

emr0129 wrote:

Emily Infeld - DNF what happened?

Marielle Hall must be injured - 16:04?

Vanessa Fraser .. 15:44.. I don’t know if she’ll be ready for the olympics

Gwen - 15:29 … that’s about right and where her fitness probably is

I was thinking these ladies would crush it but no one seemed to have a good showing in the BTC

I am stunned. I know Jerry likes to do heavy training blocks but these results and more importantly lack of results are cumulatively stunning.

OP. You left out something VERY important.

In addition to all of the women basically running horribly, you left out some key DNSs which may be even more significant.

Wehre is Karissa Schweizer. Schweizer was great in the 10k on February 20th but didn't run the 1500 on March 6th (like Cranny did) that Cranny ran. And doesn't run here. I have to assume she's hurt since she's now missed 2 straight meets.

Where is Elise Cranny? Cranny ran 3047 on February 20th and then 4:06 on March 6th. Nothing since.

Where is Shelby Houlihan? No races at all in 2021?

Where is Lopez Lomong? No races at all in 2021

I would say the one positive from the weekend is all of the women ran so poorly that one could only assume they all did heavy legs.

All fair inquiries- Sinclaire did a podcast last week where she said Shelby is now training for the 10k. She may be trying to double up at trials. I think Karissa and Elise are running the Portland races at the end of the month. I see Karissa on Strava and IG I don’t believe she’s injured. I think the bigger question is whether or not Jerry will exhaust them to the point where they suck at trials. He clearly worked them too hard before this race.. with the exception of Hall. Idk what’s going on with her this year but she has been underwhelming and she’s either nursing an injury or has decreased fitness.

On the positive side, Kate Grace has seamed to find a new spark in her career after leaving Bowerman.

Hall’s last good result was a 31:05 in Doha in 2019 which isn’t too long ago, but last summer and this year she has really struggled. She did run around 31:20 in February, but that’s not really gonna cut it unfortunately

Infeld ran 14:51 right before the pandemic and 31:08 in February so she in my mind still has a shot.

Rooting for them both

but where is houlihan wrote:

On the positive side, Kate Grace has seamed to find a new spark in her career after leaving Bowerman.

1) Kate clearly didn't thrive under the BTC

2) No offense to Kate but Jerry is trying to coach people to win medals.

I think it's kind of misleading to imply she's' a lot better now than under Jerry. She ran 4:02 under Jerry. When you are losing to Katie Snowden in a 1500 and running 4:03, you aren't exactly marking yourself as a medal contender.

3) Might she make a team because she's not with the BTC? Yes. But I imagine Jerry thought "to be able to run x, you've got to be able to do y" in practice and it didn't work out.

emr0129 wrote:

Not that I know but my guess is they’re all exhausted. Emily noted on IG that they had a really hard training block and considering so many of them did so poorly, I’d say Jerry tossed them into this with no taper. I’d also wager Hall is nursing some sort of injury because even for her, that was an atrocious performance. I hope Jerry doesn’t send the whole team to trials completely wiped.

Right you are.

Grant Fisher confirmed that on his most recent Half Step Podcast that Jerry didn't let up on their Tuesday team workout, Grant's group running 5k race pace for whatever distances.

The men didn't seem to be affected -- other than maybe Lopez and we don't know why he DNSd.

However, other than GDS who pr'd in the 800, the Bowerman Babes were really slammed. None have been injured . . . just needed more time to recover from hard training at altitude for the past 6 weeks.

Other than Marc Scott --- who will be in England preparing for his 10k Oly trials race- -- the entire BTC squad will be back in Portland in a couple weeks for the Portland Track Festival -- including Shelby racing her first 10k.

Either way. Typically you’d take a coaching changing going into an Olympic year as a bad sign that someone is on a downward spiral or on the way out. I’m pleasantly surprised that she seams to still be holding her own and has about the same chances of making the team as she did 18 months ago.

If Jerry is only looking to coach people that he believes can win medals it doesn’t really explain why he’s tinkering around with the likes of Marielle, Vanessa, Gwen, Emily, Johnson etc. Even Schweizer and Houlihan are still long shots to medal.