4 Newbury Park boys break 9:00 in same race - all of them are underclassmen!! Two run 8:43 including soph Lex Young, Nico's bro

There are hundreds of schools that meet your criteria yet they don't have even 1 guy breaking 9 minutes.

Which three?

Northport’s 3 under 9:00 in the same race ran a full 2 nile, not 3200.

Newbury Park goes for altitude training during the summer for 4 weeks. The only sea-level school to do this for that length. Their highest mileage is in the heart of the season. And they do speed year round. Goes against the grain of what we've been told is the "right" way to train.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZL_RJvAuLM

CrispyChicken wrote:

t_curtin71 wrote:

They don’t recruit. Newbury Park HS has something like 2500 students and when you mix that with an amazing team culture and all the other factors this is what you get.

My local suburban upper-middleclass high school has nearly 3000 students and not one close to performing at the level of Newbury Park. It's much more than just a luckier draw with a higher enrollment. That said, I will grant that the Newbury Park demographic is one that has a greater culture of fitness and success among the parents than most other schools, and the kids are more likely identified and trained at a younger age than in most other areas. Newbury Park is geographically situated in a great area for running.

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I attended two high schools, both with over 2000 students.

The first one is over 100 years old, there has never been a runner who broke 4:20 for the mile (let alone the 1600), or 9:30 for the 2-mile. A speedster named Gail Devers is a graduate of that school.

At the second HS there were two bothers who run sub 4:09 for the mile. The two mile record is 9:25. The brothers are Ed and Jim Arriola, the later who holds the age-15 WR for the mile at 4:08.8 which was set in 1974, and still stands.

It is unusual to have two sub 9-minute 2-milers in one race (or 3200m) at a school. Three in one race has happened only once before. Last night there were four in one race, and they are all coming back next year.

It appears the school district NP belongs to is a school choice district where people can choose their high school. Additionally, the allow people from outside the school district to attend as well if the school is not at capacity. The coaching staff has a private club team and they seem very dedicated. They have an extended altitude camp in the summer and the coach was a talented runner in his day. I doubt they need to recruit much, this would be a “if you build it they will come situation”. If you live anywhere near this school and you have talented runners it seems like a logical option. It is pretty amazing, I imagine some of there workouts would be a blast to watch. Private schools and Public Schools with open enrollment and ability to draw outside an attendance area with clusters of talent are not equivalent to high schools that are limited to a limited attendance area. Still, an awesome achievement.

Half of them are underclassmen.

Under class = freshman and sophomores. Upper class = juniors and seniors

On topic wrote:

Half of them are underclassmen.

Under class = freshman and sophomores. Upper class = juniors and seniors

100% of them are coming back next year.

Seniors = graduating this year.

Freshman, sophomores and juniors ≠ graduating this year.

"School choice is racist!" As in, leads to privilege in racing!

asbel kiprop wrote:

Northport’s 3 under 9:00 in the same race ran a full 2 nile, not 3200.

NP were four under 8:57, which converts to sub-9 2M.

Great weather, good coach, rich parents. Not totally surprising.

There's a ton of talent in America, just too many distractions and we train like idiots.

If you're going to be pedantic enough to make a point like this, then don't be a dumb-a$$ and "correct" something that isn't wrong. "Upperclassmen" has alternative definitions. One is "non-seniors," and one is "frosh and sophs." Look it up. You could argue that the latter is more common, but the former is commonly used and is not wrong.

On topic wrote:

Half of them are underclassmen.

Under class = freshman and sophomores. Upper class = juniors and seniors

Are you saying that he could end up being a bigger star than Alan Scharsu?

While 4 ran under 9, their 5th has run 9 flat earlier this season and Aaron Sahlman is most likely in the 9 flat area. Add Nico and Jace and you have 8 men who are exceptional over 2 seasons. Unprecedented.

BekeleKip wrote:

The Young brothers are America's Ingebretsens. Guarantee NAU will get both of Nico's siblings.

My first time seeing these kids run, so just a first impression, but the Sahlmans look maybe more talented than the Youngs? Sure, Colin is a year older than Lex, but he led wire to wire, and looks faster to me. (I don't think I've seen Nico on video yet either.) Are there more than two Sahlman bros?

Can anyone shed some light on what they do in terms of training, mileage, etc.?

Obviously four weeks of altitude during the summer is very significant. But there has to be a lot more to it than that. And what does "speed all year round" actually mean?

Even if they do recruit (actively or passively), they aren't getting this level and depth of results just because of who shows up at school.

va coach wrote:

Can anyone shed some light on what they do in terms of training, mileage, etc.?

Obviously four weeks of altitude during the summer is very significant. But there has to be a lot more to it than that. And what does "speed all year round" actually mean?

Even if they do recruit (actively or passively), they aren't getting this level and depth of results just because of who shows up at school.

+1

va coach wrote:

Can anyone shed some light on what they do in terms of training, mileage, etc.?

Obviously four weeks of altitude during the summer is very significant. But there has to be a lot more to it than that. And what does "speed all year round" actually mean?

Even if they do recruit (actively or passively), they aren't getting this level and depth of results just because of who shows up at school.

Surf the web and you’. find done of their training videos, you’ll also find some Great Oak stuff and that will answer your question.

well, maybe. wrote:

If you're going to be pedantic enough to make a point like this, then don't be a dumb-a$$ and "correct" something that isn't wrong.

"Upperclassmen" has alternative definitions. One is "non-seniors," and one is "frosh and sophs." Look it up. You could argue that the latter is more common, but the former is commonly used and is not wrong.

I called it out because it's yet another example of rojo's habit of over-sensationalizing posts to get attention. The linked tweet unambiguously says "none of them are seniors" and then he posts here with a more juicy, clickbaity headline. This is a pattern and it's very annoying.

I have only ever heard underclassmen in reference to frosh and sophs, didn't realize people use it in reference to any non-senior.